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Would You Fly?

03/22/2016 1:23 PM
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Re: would you fly?

03/22/2016 1:29 PM

No...not in that big of a hurry to get anywhere....

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03/22/2016 1:31 PM

The speed wouldn't stop me, but the ticket price might.

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03/23/2016 8:45 AM

What time does the flight leave sir? Ticket agent: at 09:00 sharp sir!

When does it arrive in New York? Ticket agent: at 06:00 sharp sir! Would you like a ticket?

Customer: No thank you, I just want to be here watching when it takes off!

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03/22/2016 1:33 PM

It's not the flight that worries me, it's the takeoff and landing!

Of course, if something goes wrong in the flight, than a bad landing looks likely.

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03/22/2016 1:40 PM

"Cruise at Mach 2.2 (1,675 mph)" - oops, the usual misinformation by "tech writers." More like 1,452 mph at 60,000 ft.

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03/22/2016 1:45 PM

I don't think they would need to worry to much about "a sudden loss of cabin pressure". If a window were to break, there wouldn't be time to reach for your respirator.

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03/22/2016 1:53 PM

Brings back sad memories for me:

"On October 25, 1999, a month after the American team rallied to win the Ryder Cup and four months after his U.S. Open victory, Stewart was killed in the depressurization of a Learjet"

"National Transportation Safety Board investigators later concluded that the plane suffered a loss of cabin pressure and that all on board died of hypoxia as the plane passed to the west of Gainesville, Florida. A delay of only a few seconds in donning oxygen masks, coupled with cognitive and motor skill impairment, could have been enough to result in the pilots' incapacitation."

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03/23/2016 8:46 AM

<S> to Payne Stewart!

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03/22/2016 2:56 PM

If the ticket was free heck yea I'd fly in it!

Heck if its free sign me up for a trip to the ISS, Moon and Mars while you're on the paperwork.

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03/22/2016 3:40 PM

It's cool, but I've been hearing about Ramjet technology for years and now anything less than Mach 3 for $5000 sounds like a rip off.

https://www.inverse.com/article/12432-50-years-ago-the-lockheed-d-21-drone-made-supersonic-history

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_D-21

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramjet

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03/23/2016 5:58 AM

One of the most beautiful and startling photos I ever saw was in "Wings" or "Airpower" magazine (sadly both defunct) - a 2-page spread consisting of an SR-71 with a D-21 mounted on top, flying over snow covered Rockies in Nevada. A beautiful juxtaposition of man's genius set against nature's backdrop. Looked at Google Images, but not there.

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03/23/2016 8:04 AM

Both were outstanding magazines. Sadly, they are long gone.

I believe that I do remember that issue with it's fantastic photo spread of the SR-71 and D-21 drone!!!

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03/23/2016 8:11 AM

It's a photo that is indelibly imprinted in my mind. Cheers!

P.S. Can you identify the aircraft I have as my moniker?

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03/23/2016 8:22 AM

Frankly, the photo is so small I have a difficult time discerning its details, although it does look to be a British design. Right now, I just cannot place it.

So, what is it?

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03/23/2016 9:59 AM

It's the one and only, splendid Vickers Valiant Mk 2, looking gorgeous in black. The original Mk 1 Valiant was the first and less advanced of the 3 "V-Bombers" in service. It suffered metal fatigue in the wings and was withdrawn early from service. The Mk 2 was longer, heavier, considerably beefed up and had the undercarriage in pods trailing the wings. With only 4 X 10,500 lb. thrust it achieved 552 mph at sea level (Vickers claim they had it up to 650 mph), but was destined to have the new R.R. Conway by-pass jet, which eventually achieved 20,500 lb. thrust, as used in the Handley Page Victor. One can only guess what a Valiant Mk 2 would have achieved, so powered. Instead, the Avro Vulcan landed up with the low level role - which it was not designed to do.

Nicely summed up by Bill Gunston here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCbzOQwJfd4

One of those "might have beens."

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03/23/2016 10:07 AM

Nice looking low-level bomber. I like the concept. Glad they were never used in anger.

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03/23/2016 10:20 AM

A very interesting aircraft, especially for the period. I knew nothing about this aircraft.

Thanks for the info!!!

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#18

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03/24/2016 4:25 PM

So, lyn, what's the CARBON FOOTPRINT of that go-fast passenger plane? I'll bet you know......

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03/28/2016 8:34 AM

Are we saying we have found BIGFOOT?

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03/28/2016 10:05 AM

It has not been built, yet.

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03/28/2016 11:32 PM

I'm not sure if this is what the business world wants . But just imagine a VTOL business jet . A conventual business jet that could fly at speeds like a Learjet but also capable of landing and taking off from a helipad . Instead of the jet having to land miles away from its destination , a direct flight to its actual destination , would cut enormous ground travel time .

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