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Overload Protection for Single Phase Induction Motors

03/24/2016 6:41 AM

Pl suggest some products used for overload protection of single phase motors.

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Re: Overload Protection for Single Phase Induction Motors

03/24/2016 7:40 AM

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Re: Overload Protection for Single Phase Induction Motors

03/24/2016 12:05 PM

GA. Up to a point though it is important to bear in mind that the real job of the fuse is to protect the wiring that feeds the motor.

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Re: Overload Protection for Single Phase Induction Motors

03/24/2016 9:49 AM

Adjustable thermal overload relay.

This device allows you to set the continuous running amps. The current adjustment is not over a large motor amperage, so you select the range for your motor. Note this is like the heaters in contactors, and the relay does not interrupt the motor current, but provides a NC and NO contact that is part of a motor control. Generally the NC contact would be in series with the coil for the motor contactor that is rated for the motor wattage of your motor in question.

But FREDSKI's solution of a fuse is valid, problem is getting a fuse rated for your motor and at it's operating amps which may be a hard to find fuse. Search for Fusetron as one trademark/type that does this. This type of fuse is for the overload starting current of the motor.

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Re: Overload Protection for Single Phase Induction Motors

03/24/2016 10:08 AM

In addition to the above:

  • Thermistor, embedded in the windings, and trip relay outside them.
  • Thermostat on the surroundings.
  • Mechanical weak link.
  • Belt drive.
  • Etc.

However, it is best to design whatever the motor the motor is driving in such a way that overload does not occur in the first place.

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03/24/2016 11:40 AM
  • Proper design.
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03/24/2016 12:00 PM
  • A limited-slip clutch between the motor and its load.
    • On Garrard (usual disclaimer) and other transcription turntable decks used in discotheques and in radio broadcast studios, one of the ways of preventing the motor from overloading is to introduce a felt slip-mat between the vinyl disc being played and the turntable itself. The presence of the slip mat has a distinct advantage when cueing up: the stylus can then be advanced closer to the track being played. The technique is then to start the turntable while holding the slip mat stationary, open the fader fully, and the moment the track is needed in the mix just let the slip mat go. It helps to have a stylus tracking weight in the 3-5gm region, so as to reduce the risk of the stylus jumping out of the groove in the record while the mat is being slipped, which can mean using a special cartridge and stylus while using slip mats. With a little practice the results are quite staggering and can turn a crap DJ into a very capable one.
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Re: Overload Protection for Single Phase Induction Motors

03/24/2016 12:06 PM

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Re: Overload Protection for Single Phase Induction Motors

03/24/2016 12:09 PM

It depends on your context here. Are you designing a single phase motor from scratch and want to incorporate the overload protection into jthe motor? Or are you going to USE a single phase motor and want to make sure it is protected?

If using an off the shelf motor, fist check to see if the thermal overload protection is built-in. That is very very common on single phase AC motors. If it is, then all you need is Short Circuit protection, ie fuse or circuit breaker. Here in North America, motors that have built-in thermal overload protection are required to state so on the nameplate. The wording may be slightly different between brands, and sometimes it is just abbreviated as something like "TP" for Thermally Protected, but it has to be there. If there is nothing explicitly saying that, then you must use an external overload protective device.

As far as external thermal overload devices go, the simpler the better. Where you are in the world will make a difference in what is available to you, so rather than all of us spouting off ideas that may be irrelevant to you, how about you saying where you are, what size motor you are referring to and what voltage you intend to use? Don't make is play 20 questions...

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Re: Overload Protection for Single Phase Induction Motors

03/25/2016 1:32 PM

A fire extinguisher?

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Re: Overload Protection for Single Phase Induction Motors

03/26/2016 12:53 AM

A suitably sized adjustable thermal overload relay. Since overload will result in thermal failure of the motor, a thermal relay will replicate this. However, since the thermal mass of the relay is very much smaller than that of the motor, a suitable ambient compensation should be there. Somewhat slightly under-compensated.

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Re: Overload Protection for Single Phase Induction Motors

03/26/2016 7:25 PM

Impedance protection; it requires no additional circuitry/components, just careful design. If you insist on using additional complications/components then try a PTC (Positive Temperature Coefficient) thermistor/varistor or eutectic thermal switch embedded/in series with the run winding.

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Re: Overload Protection for Single Phase Induction Motors

03/28/2016 8:51 AM

Have a bad vacuum cleaner motor circuit. The Thermal overlord device is now an open circuit. Where do I get a new one? E-bay? Amazon?

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Re: Overload Protection for Single Phase Induction Motors

03/28/2016 9:26 AM

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Re: Overload Protection for Single Phase Induction Motors

04/06/2016 4:51 AM

I recommend you below two big company;

Thermal overload relay (TA series) of Contactor from ABB

EOCR from Schneider

And if you wanna make it gorgeous, UMC100 from ABB or Tesys T from Schneider is good for you.

Hope it help you.

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