A Great Design is Hard to Keep Down

I'm sure there are lots of things that need to be bombed at the moment.

Stop your pouting.

Its a job specific machine. Not many of the same machines are flown by operators (pilots) that are the same machine their grandfather flown. or is there?

Piper super cub?

Many bush planes are thirty to forty years old.

An ISIS compound?

Drone.

carpet bombing ISIS compound.

Only if you think it is OK to kill 2,400 to take out 84 known ISIS operatives.

"The government has “no doubt” that innocent civilians have been killed by drones, and despite the checked, double-checked, triple-checked actions taken, it continues. How many have died? 2,400 people since 2004, and that is just in Pakistan, according to a report by London’s Bureau of Investigative Journalism. A mere 84 of the dead were confirmed Al-Qaeda members. Without outrage, do we set the stage for default approval?"

Everything that has happened since George Bush's brain decided that he was going to war over non-existent WOMD has been a disaster. That is NOT the fault of any of the weapons systems deployed.

feel better, now here's some reality, and the real reason, Sadam Hussein, remember him, he should have stuck with the UN resolutions he agreed to for inspections instead of kicking them out. But he didn't, and he and the country paid the price.

Btw, how's that Syria diplomacy thing going... Sounds like another red line is in order, while Russia prepares for something a little more horrid.

you going to close this thread down with your bs political banter. There's other sites for you ideology. Take it take it there.

Peace brother.

Impeach my sources, not me.

Again, There's a place for your crap and it's not here.

Crap? I didn't make anything I said up. It is indisputable fact!

Your advocacy of carpet bombing whole cities simply proves that you don't care about truth, right and wrong or human life.

Remember, you advocated the mass killing of many hundreds or thousands just to kill one. That's crap.

You took us off topic, not me! You're no different than the radical Islamics that you hate.

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First let me say I disagreed with Bush's decision to invade Iraq. Going into Afghanistan to get the perpetrators of the 9/11 attacks - yes; Iraq, no.

Ok, having said that, I have to point out to you that, YES INDEED, WMD were found in Iraq. Even the NY Times eventually reported that WMDs did exist. (There are a gazillion stories about it on the interwebz; you can google it .)

The false story that WMDs didn't exist was due to that idiot Karl Rove, who wanted that information kept secret due to its potential effect on the troops there and on their family members (and the public) at home.

WMD were found long after the fact.

There was no proof of any WMD when Cheney Bush started it.

Been on a trip but couldn't stay away.

Bush was the only one to enforce the Iraq UN resolutions. So what are you talking about,... again.

and what does <subscribes> Mean to you? You seem to do that quite often. Lol

Probably much less expensive than a new........... anything.

They'd level the field with the Tupolev Tu-95 anyway.

Better to have an not need

Applies to just about every everything - weapons, tools, money, friends.

I will try to not get involved in the political spat going on.

So, I will ask a few questions about this plane.

1. How many versions of the B-52 are there ?

2. Where were (are) these planes stored at ?

3. When the planes come out of retirement, will they have new updated electronics, engines and control systems ?

4. Who will be awarded the contract and how many will be employed in their reconstruction ?

There is a wikipedia article about the B-52 that will answer most of your questions. The answer to your question 3 is 'yes, of course'. Here's another article with more details about the B-52 taken out of storage.

http://www.warbirdsnews.com/warbirds-news/fun-facts/return-ghost-rider.html

The last production model I beleive was the H series (B-52H), the last B52 coming off the assembly line and delivered back in 1963. And bringing it back to life there have been quite a bit of avionics improvements in these though.

They (boneyard) is at Davis-Monthan Air Force Base, Arizona, the replacement parts are not manufactured anymore, and is actually procured from the boneyard. It's interesting, that on some of our agreements with Russian we had to destroy these B52's that would be confirmed to Russian (USSR at the time) by satellite imagery. I had seen picture of it, where they have a large crane with a guillotine type on the end of the crane and the plane is literally slice in two.

all is inspected and updated.

I'm not quite sure who would be awarded the contract, I'm thinking Boeing.

the WWII Iowa class battle ships are basically the same, they mothball it. And under Reagan administration in the 80's they brought them back. Since then, I beleive they mothballed them again.

With quite a lot of manufacturing jobs exported to other countries, will replacement parts need to be made on foreign soil ?

And will a call go out to retired engineers ( like Lyn ) to re-enter the workforce ?

I read I think it was in readers digests that a lot of parts such forgings are striped from existing planes that were mothballed. It's more feasible.

i did hear they might be looking to install new more modern engines, but that has be kicked around before.

as far as Lyn goes, I doubt it, too much baggage, btw weren't you the one that didn't want political bs. Lol...

No thanks. I never worked on jets.

Don't know what baggage may be attached, but none for me to worry about.

I'm on a northern swing to visit one of my retirement properties and fish.

No desire for full time work.