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PoE LED Lighting

10/12/2016 3:09 AM

Gents...

Has anyone had any experience with Power over Ethernet LED Lighting please?
I have been approached to supply as part of a tender this type of lighting, so I would like to get a general opinion

So if you would be so kind as to share the following...
1. the good points and the bad points
2. Any problems?
3. Preferred supplier/manufacturer
4. has anyone compared PoE LED to stand alone Solar Lighting?

If anyone has anything else to add I would appreciate it.

As to why I'm asking.. I have my doubts about this system, and looking at several suppliers, they all say their products are the best thing since sliced bread, as they would, but I would like to get first hand real time experience.

I thank you all in advance

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Re: PoE LED Lighting

10/12/2016 4:06 AM

A bit of thinking should confirm all the doubts you might already have.

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Re: PoE LED Lighting

10/12/2016 10:34 PM

At present I have no concerns or doubts about PoE LED lighting one way of the other, I want to collate experiences and then decide.

BUT, the final decision will be that of the client!

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10/12/2016 5:12 AM

No experience at all. However my immediate reaction was that power over ethernet is a way for power to "hitch" a ride on a data cable which is necessarily of a very high spec., and, what you want is a way for very low spec. data to "hitch" a ride on bog standard power cable.

A brief search for cable pricing seems to reveal that 8 core cat5e cable (24AWG) is much cheaper than 2 core (18 AWG, so same total cross sectional area) power cable.

So it probably depends on how much power you need to deliver over what sort of distances.

Low power: cheap single twisted pair wiring probably wins out.

Medium power: PoE wins out.

High power: mains cable wins out.

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10/12/2016 10:37 PM

GA from me.. excellent article.. Many thanks

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10/13/2016 3:03 AM

I can't imagine any possible good points.
I see it as comparable to using the fridge as a wardrobe... you could do it but why...?
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10/13/2016 11:45 AM

Read Solar Eagles link - apparently using DC from the a DC source to power LED's is more efficient than converting AC to DC and regulating. However, I don't see the savings being as they proposed, as there is still a conversion of AC to DC somewhere, if not directly to run the lights, except for the listed use with a solar system. Seems to me they forgot to add in this reduction of efficiency if using a typical ethernet system voltage source.

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10/13/2016 2:02 PM

That makes no sense... all DC sources (except batteries*) are converted from AC at some point. The efficiency is merely a function of the topology used.
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*And even rechargeable batteries are charged from a source converted from AC.
From whence does the Ethernet get it's power?

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10/14/2016 3:07 PM

As a designer of instrumentation circuitry and small motor power circuits, I should have thought of this sooner. Efficiency aside, the wiring has to be far easier to run, and if you make your own e-net cables, probably cheaper too. You can run the e-net cabling right across the surface, if you don't mind the ugly cables on the pretty architecture. No need for a typical home owner to call an electrician for a wiring job anymore. Voltages could be class 2 in the NEC, if you hold down the amperage draw per circuit and very easy to legally run. (don't know your codes over there for building wiring)

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10/14/2016 8:35 AM

Well, fridges are still sometimes used for furs and even woollens as the temperature prevents hatching / growth of moths & other pests.

As for POE lighting, I'd guess it depends what your current (hoho) infrastructure is, it may just be easier to install, or there may be a data requirement also. Although frankly, I'm arguing with myself here, I'm still 90% in the "why would you?" camp.

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10/13/2016 12:40 PM

Ferrari and Lamborghini make great pizza delivery vehicles.

(Actually a better answer than you might initially think.)

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10/14/2016 12:33 PM

Local Home Depot had 60w eq. daylight Silvania led bulbs for $2.23 ea in 4paks and I have replaced all my lamps with these for roughly $70. They are only controlled by regular switch except for some X10 computer controlled lights. Expected savings are $40-50/mo. Addressable LED bulbs are $8 & up each and I would guess that would include the "ethernet" bulbs, hardly seems worth the investment, now I can run all of my lighting off a small/cheap inverter.

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10/15/2016 3:07 AM

Savings of 40-50 $$$ a month?? My entire slectric bill is 40-50 $$ a month! That includes lighting, and I'm up all night, power tools, cooking and internet/24/7. What are you lighting? An entire town?

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