Privacy? Don't Need No Stinkin' Privacy!

Hey are you gonna' eat that other doughnut or what?

http://mashable.com/2013/11/12/opt-out-data-tracking/#jnQJ5owmOkqL

You do realize these services are to help you find what you're looking for, not spy on you.....haha I hate to break it to you, but you could put your life on line 24/7, and nobody would care....There are at least, several billion people, more interesting than you....no offense, I'm sure you have your moments....

HEY! How did you know I was eating a doughnut?

Next thing I know,you will tell everyone about me sitting on a bean bag naked eating Cheeto's!,watching porn flicks!

I am sure there are 7 billion other life stories out there,all more interesting than mine, and yours,and it is not the “story” that is interesting to certain entities.

It is the accumulative consumption of the masses,and where best to market those products that is the driving force for the monitoring of individuals,not some prurient interest in their mundane lives of quiet desperation.

Relational data bases can ferret out personal information from seemingly unrelated data.

Cookies track where you visit online,what you purchase,and have a claimed side benefit of helping you.

Information is money. Especially marketable information.

Want to get free stuff? Sure,just give us your email and mailing address.

TANSTAAFL!

I don't mind a few more clicks to get what I want in lieu of having a tracking cookie.

The information may be truly used for benign purposes at present,but who knows the type of government the future may hold?

And yes,it is true that all international telephone conversations and emails are monitored and “sifted” for keywords,which set a trigger to capture the entire conversation.

It is safer to be a little paranoid nowadays than to be naive and gullible.

To desire for personal privacy is no more unusual than closing the door when using the bathroom.

Twice may be a coincidence. 3or 4 times, maybe.

More than that,and it becomes suspicious at least.

Sure,a truly paranoid person can find connections where none exist,because they are everywhere if you look hard enough.

And that can lead down a long and winding downhill path.

I do not over analyze. I simply observe and connect the dots.

And when I get enough dots,the pixels add up to a bad picture,IMHO.

Bad night?

I guess I am lucky to not need medications to prevent that sort of thought processes!

The way I see paranoia is that it is only justified in the minds of the paranoid similar to how OCD actions are justified in the minds of those with OCD.

I'm not and never have been paranoid thusly the whole thought process comes across as being nothing more than irrational time and effort wasting exercises.

Personally, I think you are way over valuing your significance in society.

Do you think maybe there was a "hot mic" involved that set him off?

Don't know. I for one practice being as open and honest asn I can be. It's too friggin' much work to try and hide stuff or present myself as someone I am not.

I say what I say and that's good enough for me.

Do you close the bathroom door when you take a dump?

If you do,are you trying to hide something,or be someone you are not,or being dishonest?

Do you lock your doors at night?

Certainly there is no one in the world that wishes a good,honest,forthright stand up guy any harm,so what's the beef with leaving your doors unlocked?

I really just think you are jealous because you have no one to talk to when you are all alone.

Nope. Doors wide open unless other people are around and only then it closed as a courtesy to them.

I haven't locked a door on my house ever. I'm not even sure where they keys are to get back in.

I talk to the kitties. They listen and interact about as well as any human and that's good enough for me.

So you are a recluse?

That is ok,and I would be if I could.

Oh,by the way I meant "Stinkin, Privacy " figuratively,not literally.

N Dakota? So that's where all that odoriferous wind is coming from....

Taking a dump with the door closed could be interpreted as having mercy on the rest of the household! At least it contains some of the odor for a short time.

The voices in my head tell me I'm OK too.

The voices in my head have moved on. I was too boring for them.

I don't blame them.

I'm not paranoid but why are you following me? (bumper sticker

Looks like you won the genetic lottery on that count,but look how much you missed?

Try to think of this from a different perspective, look at the big picture. It is correct to assume that you as an individual are not 'interesting' enough for someone to spend corporate money on listening to your conversations. But what if you could know that one specific region just didn't like your product. Say you have noticed that sales are low in a region, the first thought is to spend money on advertising that region, but what if you could know that the reason you have low sales is because people just don't like your product there. Would it be worth it to spend a little money to find out if you would be wasting that advertising on an audience that will never give you money?

Consumers are already at a disadvantage because expert psychologists and statisticians are already studying behavior to make advertisements and store layout and every little thing they can to part you from your money. You might say conspiracy theory, but look at the evidence...it is working. Here in a time when the rich are getting richer and the working class is borrowing itself into debt with lower wages, stagnant wages and steadily increasing inflation people just keep buying!

Is it a theory that the CEO's who make usually over 300 times the average workers salary are doing everything they can to part us from our hard earned cash? I say there is no doubt that it is a conspiracy that they are accumulating every bit of data they can on everything they can and don't let ethics get in the way of it.

Engineers are a pretty ethical lot...which means we should be even more careful who we trust.

Drew K

No, but I would not put it past a corporate "robot" to be assigned to interpret everything it hears, and tailor commercials just to fit my situation.

They do everything they can to "identify and capitalize on opportunities to increase sales, grow margins". It is all about getting the customer to part with their money. The stupid thing is they have and do spend thousands on crap like this but neglect to train and educate their employees to provide good customer service.

Services are not any better. Years ago, I recall changing providers several times in a year because the other guy offered a cash gift card. Mobile phone providers seem to only care about getting new customers instead of keeping old ones. I recently had to change because we moved and couldn't get service with the old one...I hate the new one because they just don't care if I call with a complaint or problem.

My conspiracy theory is that they don't care about customer service anymore because a. nobody else does and b. they are making enough from selling our data they don't care about us anymore!

Drew K

The old saying, "Too broke to pay attention" comes to mind.

Your outrage is justified even if your rant was a bit lengthy. Forgive the detracting comments; there is really no other way to judge your comment (than as they have ,'crazy') without implicating their own selves in submissively forfeiting everyone's very personal right to privacy.

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It isn'the okay for them to spy on everyone, especially those who aren'the doing any significant wrongs/harm tor others.

Sure this sort of thing is used for getting better ads in front of your face faster, but it is naive to think they abstain from all other uses because they wouldn'the want to deviate from the moral high ground.

https://www.cnet.com/news/court-to-fbi-no-spying-on-in-car-computers/

....so now they are careful not to disclose such monitoring, especially in court. Stingray and numerosion other similar technologies have been provided to local Pd all over the country that allow monitoring of conversations, and not only when you are on a phone call.

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You aren't paranoid. They are monitoring,

All kidding aside, I do agree, privacy is hard to come by these days. I do a google search and not long after my browser has multiple ads for that item. Someone or something is reading my browser history.

Maybe young people today have never known privacy, so they won't miss it when it's completely gone!

...and that is even more problematic, because our right to privacy depends on an expectation of privacy. This is one of the cases where tolerating the transgression, especially to the point of ubiquity, transforms what the wrong into something that will no longer be illegal...for us or future generations.

You don't have a right to privacy without an expectation of privacy.

A closed door implies an expectation of privacy.

A sealed letter likewise.

Emails should have the same expectations,but I know better.

A person watching tv in his home should not have to opt out of having his privacy invaded by telemarketers.

If this becomes the norm,and everyone accepts it,what then?

Eventually, you will not even be able to tell an off color joke in your own home without Big Brother knocking on your door, to remind you that you used banned words.

With the EOT,everything could be a bug..even real bugs!

1984? NAH! more like 2024.

I will continue to purchase "Dumb" tv's,and even then,I will not connect a phone line or enable wireless connection to them.

Which is still no guarantee of disconnect from outgoing info.

It is a slow and insidious invasion of privacy that has no limit.

People scream about their rights to privacy as they post every detail of their lives that no one really needs or wants to know about on every social media center at 5 minute intervals of their waking day.

I don't get it.

"Stupid is as stupid does."

His fears are justified, just a few years too late. Being the Government has free reins on our privacy, Samsung, Google, Apple and other's jumped on the cart for the free ride, unchallenged. HTRedNek forgot to mention the video camera at the top center of his "smart" TV, not even your bedroom is private anymore. Yup, Big Brother and everybody else watching and listening.

I looked on Google, but the only reference to a PM speaker, was a permanent magnet speaker, is that what a pm speaker is ? Because my TV has four of them.

Boycotting, this means that I will have to go back to listening to audio on tape or running a string between two Campbell soup cans.

Screened by government agencies, hmm,, let's see, I'm yelling out, " Obama is an idiot ", wait, is that a knock on the door ?

I have bought plenty of bottles of beer, but I haven't got an email from a substance abuse center, maybe if I bought a bottle of scotch,,

I don't have ____book, I don't have " imitation friends".

Yes,PM Speaker is a permanent magnet speaker.

It generates sound by vibrating a speaker cone with a coil attached in close proximity to a permanent magnet.

The cone will also vibrate when struck by any sound within it's acoustic range,and generate a small but usable voltage in the coil,which in effect,becomes a microphone.

As a matter of fact,everything in the room resonates at some frequency.

A laser aimed at your window can detect the slightest vibrations,and software can decode the vibrations back into sound.

The laser can be invisible to the naked eye.

Secure locations,such as embassies,etc. guard against this method of snooping by taking measures to insulate the glass from vibrations, as well as RF reflective coatings.

It wasn't the emails that aroused my suspicions as such,it was the Celtic Priest at the foot of my bed at 2 am giving me visions of Stonehenge under construction.

Perhaps it was just a bit of under cooked potato that I had for supper,or the plaid pillowcase I slept on--or a little too much single malt Macallan?

(I need to research which clan the plaid belongs to...there may be copyright infringements that have teed him off.)

Maybe I should switch to Bourbon?

Lighten up everybody! We are only here for a little while!

I'm not crazy...are we?

In 100 years none of this will matter.

They can listen in....is that why the DVR in the Dish box runs every night at 3AM - uploading the days conversations????

I'm not sure from your post whether you knew or just suspected, but there are TVs that spy on you. Here is a link to tell you how to turn off the spying.

I hope they get an red eye full from now on. I plan on putting on "the butt show" every night until hell freezes over.

I don't think they can hear that, (PM speaker = microphone) unless you let something slip. Might consider doing that occasionally.

Don't know what they would get from that spying that is anymore telling about you than what they get from our internet use. It took "them" about 2 minutes to get an ad to me on an instrument I was looking for on Google on my workplace PC. "They" tied my Father into my work place address 8 years ago. I started getting ads from antique dealers he worked with before he passed away. I searched for a Sears manual on a tractor on my home PC and got a Sears ad for lawn tractors sent to my work place address within a half an hour. What is anymore frightening about the voice monitoring than this? "They" already know ALL about you. I know I'll never be able to run for a political office.

I hope they don't find out about the Cool Whip,the Chicken,and the Weedeater!

https://www.bing.com/search?q=it%27s+me+again+margaret+youtube&pc=MOZI&form=MOZSBR

It get worse:The LED lighting has the capability to send information,and there is even a "lightnet" communications within buildings.

Now what will prevent them from implementing it in your home once sufficient devices are installed?

Power over internet is a simple concept;install a high pass filter at the pole transformer,and superimpose the internet signal on the power wires.

The minuscule vibrations set up within an led created by sound could be harnessed as a microphone.

Studies reveal that 1 out of every 3 people are crazy.

Look around at two of your friends.If they seem ok,.....well.

I remember the time the "girls" wanted to hide in the bathroom for a secret conversation. I had extension speakers in there powered by a tape deck in the living room. The inputs and outputs were all phone plugs. I unplugged the speakers from the outputs and plugged them into the microphone inputs and heard every word they said, in stereo.

May be we are now lab rats?

According the guys on "Ancient Aliens" lab rats is all we have ever been. It is just getting nearer the time when THE ONE arises and resets the matrix.

Or Jesus descends from the clouds and takes us all home. I used to live in dread of that day, but as I get older, I start to think, "how long O Lord, how much longer?"

Amen! As screwed as this world has become, my departure won't be soon enough. Hell- that's living on earth, so everything else has to be heavenly afterwards

'...Hell- that's living on earth, so everything else has to be heavenly afterwards...'

Hell would be mistaking this current embodiment for anything less than a profound exquisite opportunity for which we are so fortunate to experience. It would be Hell, to have some last fleeting realization that your opportunity to enjoy shaping your world toward your idea of best, was squandered and your appreciation tainted because yoi had been tricked into expecting something better was coming right after we get this reality out of the way.

This is Heaven, to convince yourself otherwise would make this Hell.

Anyway, might as well hedge your bets, accept this dogma and give it a go.....if it is correct and you don't believe, you are totally screwed, but if it isn't true but you act as if it is, you still probably had a better life. (Hmmm, this reasoning sounds familiar).

You're paralleling Pythagoras's Wager there. It's an old, well tested formula: the generic version goes as such:

1. X may or may not exist.
2. There is no way to test for X during the time period of the example.
3. You may take action A, which assumes that X exists, or action B, which assumes that X does not exist. It is assumed that the 'cost' of A and B are equal.
4. If X exists, A results in a reward after the time period of the example, B results in no reward, but no loss.
5. If X does not exist, both A and B result in no reward, but no loss.
6. Therefore A is the 'most beneficial' action to take.

If we live this life right, indeed it is more of a heaven and a joy every day, not a hell to be dreaded. Pain to me is hell, and I work at avoiding it. Having said that, every man has had to endure some pain to reach a gain he desperately desires.

Therefore, not all pain is hell, but rather more of a purifying fire, removing dross, and revealing the pure gold of purpose, integrity, and principle.

So there you go.

It's no longer than the time of death even if we died a hundred million years, it's just like a twinkling of an eye once we wake up.

I heard someone said " Until the number of gentiles is completed in the outer court". May be that's the reason why the opposition does not want to harm anybody with oil in its head. It's good as a one count then its getting nearer and that means his time is shorter towards the irreversible lake.

Apparently,my paranoia extends beyond planet Earth.

Every 8 minutes or so,the sun connects with the Earth for a data dump.

About the time it takes for light to travel from the sun to the Earth.

DTR/DSR- RTS/CTS?

Obsolete flow control?

Hmmm.. just how old is the Sun,anyway?

It does this by means of a magnetic tube that forms from their respective magnetic fields.

Scientists have been unable to decipher this data thus far,and it is referred to as "noise", so no efforts have been expended to try to decode the info.

Experts deny there is any information contained therein so don't waste your time and resources.

I interpret it as merely a parent checking up on it's child.

These tubes form with other planets as well;Calling home.

Crazy? Sure I'm crazy.It is a necessary survival skill in today's world.

https://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2008/30oct_ftes/

http://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/university-college-london-ultrasonic-cross-device-hacking/