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Efficiency of Induction Motor

01/15/2017 10:33 AM

Efficiency of induction motor is maximum when constant loss is equal to variable loss

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Re: Efficiency of Induction Motor

01/15/2017 11:03 AM

Says who?

In my books the efficiency is maximum when there is no losses!

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01/16/2017 1:59 PM

I believe that the motor efficiency is given by output shaft power divided by input electrical power. So if you are trying to be "cute" and imply when not running the efficiency is highest, you now have a troublesome division, with 0 being divided by 0.

So I must ask if you have developed such a motor? (one with no losses) If so, there is a spot for you on YouTube, right along side of the internal combustion motor that breaks down water into hydrogen and oxygen, burns it, and outputs more power than input.

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01/16/2017 2:09 PM

It's like everyone forgets about L'Hôpital's rule once they leave school.

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01/16/2017 2:40 PM

Make me go back 40 years. I first learned of L'Hôpital's rule in a class taught by a French mathematician. Neat huh? Can't remember his name, but that accent - never will forget that. It was not classic Inspector Clouseau, as he was from the Brittany region. Seems they have regional dialects over there too.

Now if I'm not mistaken, the rule applies to functions tending to 0 in the limit, not to a hard number 0. What we have here is an absolute absence of power divided by an absolute absence of power, not a function of power tending to 0.... you get the idea.

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01/15/2017 11:23 AM

Maximum efficiency is reached when power in = power out....

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http://www.electrical4u.com/losses-and-efficiency-of-induction-motor/

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01/15/2017 11:26 AM

There is no such thing as a constant loss. If there were then an induction motor would draw power from something all the time, even while disconnected from a power source.

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01/15/2017 11:48 AM

Is that a statement (you did not write ?) or did you intend a question?

It is true, for both a motor with high fixed and variable losses; and a motor of same shaft power & speed, but low fixed and variable losses, that maximum efficiency each can give is when their fixed & variable losses are equal. The best efficiency of the high loss motor will be less than that of the low loss motor.

This fact is not a recipe for the most efficient motor, but a feature of how every motor behaves.

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01/16/2017 3:09 AM

Nonsense.

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01/16/2017 8:37 AM

A constant is just that, constant, without variation. A variation is not constant by its very nature. Ergo, the statement above is incomplete and not true. Both variation loss and constant loss is output and two calculation may be required to find a mean average.

Efficiency is defined as the ratio of the output to that of input,

Three phase induction motor efficiency,

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