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Who Knew Physics Would Be Handy While Skiing?

01/19/2017 2:11 PM

I thought this story would be of interest to engineers. The Spokesman-Review | Page O03 Thursday, 19 January 2017

Who knew physics would be handy while skiing?

By Bill Jennings

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Math is really hard work for me, but I’ve always enjoyed physics. Some physicists who write have a knack for making the complex simple to help you understand their universe, such as how Einstein’s famous equation E=MC2 explains why if a baseball is thrown at you hard enough, it will knock you down. That’s why I couldn’t resist ordering The Physics of Skiing: Skiing at the Triple Point, by David Lind and Scott P. Sanders.

According to the authors, they chose the title of their book for two reasons. The first being skiing works best at the triple point of water, a magic zone where water’s three possible states – solid, liquid and vapor – coexist.

Their second reason is to share with readers their true joy, made possible by an understanding of the physics involved in the sport: a triple point where increased knowledge of the “how” and “why” is joined with the “wow” of skiing.

The authors’ dissection of skiing minutiae ranged from the polymerization of water molecules into snowflake crystals to the kinetics and kinematics involved with the path of quickest descent – a challenge known to physicists as “The Brachistochrone Problem.”

The content is enough to leave most of us glassy-eyed. Nevertheless, I absorbed some interesting revelations and “fun” facts.

For example, I’ve always wondered how the turning radius of a ski is calculated. It’s an approximation of the radius of a circle passing through the tip, tail and waist of the ski edge. The equation looks like this: R = C2/SC; where R (the turning radius) equals C (the length of the ski in contact with the snow, squared) divided by SC (the side cut).

Another equation gives you the number to plug into SC:1⁄4 (S – 2W + T): S (the shovel width) minus two times W (the waist width) plus T (the tail width), times one quarter.

Fortunately, someone does the math for you. Look on the ski and there it is. My ski’s turning radius is 17 meters. However, could awareness of a little bit of the “how” and “why” of a spec blithely tossed about by ski marketers enhance my “wow?” Maybe.

Ski instructors can make a simple act maddeningly complex. Wait until you analyze ski technique through the lens of Newtonian Mechanics.

A quick review of Newton’s three laws of motion: 1) a body in motion stays in motion until acted upon by a force; 2) if a force acts upon a body in motion, its motion must change; and 3) for every force acting on this body, an equal and opposite force is acting against it.

When you ski, a lot of forces are at work on your body in motion (law No. 1). Those forces (law No. 2) include velocity, acceleration, mass, angular motion, torque, momentum, gravity – both normal and parallel to the slope – aerodynamic drag and lift, friction and last but not least, the reaction force of the snow (law No. 3).

Lind and Sanders provide a lot of diagrams and equations about how these various forces act upon a skier. My head spun.

If I could ask Sir Isaac for help, he might say, “Your mass will accelerate down the fall line. To control your acceleration, you are going to initiate torque with your ankles, knees and hips to tip the ski on edge. This force will impact angular motion, velocity and momentum, causing your skis to turn. These and other myriad equal and opposite forces acting and reacting with themselves, gravity, terrain, your equipment and yourself will propel you down the mountain. Consider yourself enlightened.”

Thank you, brother Isaac. Fortified with knowledge about the how and the why of skiing, I headed for the hills.

As I skied, my thoughts went to all the advanced physics my brain calculated, harnessing the forces of nature and making adjustments hundreds of times per second as it solved The Brachistochrone Problem with such incredible precision on the fly. Wow.

BILL JENNINGS

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01/19/2017 2:21 PM

As I skied, my thoughts went to all the advanced physics my brain calculated, harnessing the forces of nature and making adjustments hundreds of times per second as it solved The Brachistochrone Problem with such incredible precision on the fly. Wow.

.... 10 seconds later I crashed into the side of the mountain I was skiing on. Turns out you actually need to know how to ski as well (or in this case stop). The Helicopter ride off the mountain was fantastic, lots of physics involved in its flight to ponder.

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01/19/2017 2:42 PM

Agreed, it's an interesting way to explain physics, but a terrible way to learn to ski!

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01/19/2017 3:23 PM

I ski fine and I never received a lesson in my life!

I am especially good at going fast in a fairly straight line. Turning and stopping......not so much.

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01/19/2017 6:31 PM

I haven't skied in years, but I do remember using butt brakes!

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01/19/2017 7:17 PM

I found that you stop really quickly when your legs and skis each go in completely different directions to that of your forward momentum.

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01/20/2017 9:51 AM

Isn't that what is called "face-plant" braking?

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01/22/2017 1:35 PM

No, it's called stopping your forward momentum by doing the splits. Ouch.

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01/23/2017 9:07 AM

Is that why you say "Croiyky" down there?

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01/23/2017 1:50 PM

That's not what I cried out when it happened no.

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01/19/2017 4:04 PM

Lessons in Physics 101, on the slopes, $200 base price, hotel and bunnies extra.

Flight off the mountain by helicopter - not priceless, but above your pay grade.

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01/19/2017 4:10 PM

And don't forget the $15 hamburgers in the base lodge that make you long for a McD's. I'd feel so much better about it if the cashier held a gun to my head when checking out.

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01/19/2017 4:21 PM

Agreed. That is a large greed.

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01/19/2017 4:46 PM

Oh you would be fun to take to the movie concession stand.

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01/19/2017 4:48 PM

They have small boxes of greed, medium greed, and extra grande large boxes of indulgence greed.

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01/19/2017 5:54 PM

Don't forget the promotional containers.

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01/19/2017 8:34 PM

I'm likely (I hope) to be exaggerating the cost of the burgers at the ski lodge. It's been a while since I've been skiing at a major ski area, but I do remember the sticker shock when I did find myself ordering food at these places. I generally try to brown bag and rent one of those lockers to store my lunch. Skiers tend to be a captive audience, so they pretty much charge what they want.

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01/19/2017 8:53 PM

Apparently, not by much. Epic Burger at Vail was $12.25 in 2011 according to the NY Times.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/11/travel/in-vail-colo-a-burger-that-aims-higher.html

And by some more recent accounts, not very well received.

http://www.newschoolers.com/forum/thread/802722/How-much-is-a-burger-at-your-resort--

"the most un-epic "epic burger" sold anywhere vail resorts owns is like 14.95 (without fries) for a simple burger WITH A WHOPPING ONE PIECE OF CHEESE!!!!"

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01/19/2017 4:33 PM

I wonder if they would calculate the friction resistance of my leather motorcycle jacket sliding down the mountain. I discovered that it is quite low because I had to climb back up many meters of the slope to retrieve my lost ski!

I discovered that the jacket is really good for skiing, if and when you do wipe out, the armour padding will protect your elbows and cushion your spine but man does it slide well! I spent a whole day on the slopes, only fell twice but came away unbruised.

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01/19/2017 4:50 PM

Nothing says "styling" while slushing down the slopes on your skis while sporting your Brother of Anarchy jacket. Do the chains hanging out of pockets (attached to wallets and such) help with snagging on branches when you need to slow down?

ROFLMAO, good one bro.

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01/20/2017 9:36 AM

Do you see the bike I ride in my Avatar? You don't have chains on your gear if you ride this kind of bike! You only have chains if you ride a tractor :-|

If Harley and Davidson were alive today they would shut all the plants down and retool them to make race bikes! All the wonderful roads across the states but America does not build a commercial sport bike. World superbikes have more than one race in some countries, but I think there is only one or 2 in all of the states?

I better distract myself with work so I stop ranting...

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The picture was so small...is that a Ducati?

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01/23/2017 2:20 PM

Honda CBR 600 FX. I rode a fireblade (1000 cc) a few times, but find I am faster and have more fun on the smaller bike due to how it handles the corners.

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01/19/2017 4:54 PM

The triple point of water is not available in nature on Earth. The temperature is commonly achieved - 0.01ºC, but the pressure required is too low (4.58mmHg).

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01/19/2017 7:38 PM

You have to ski on really high mountains!

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01/20/2017 9:08 AM

How about putting a ski resort on Mars? Middle class family would be swarming to the slopes!

Ski Mars!

(Back in the 1960's one could easily find and purchase a bumper sticker in Lubbock, Texas that read: Ski Lubbock!) About the same as ski Mars.

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01/19/2017 10:51 PM

Yeah, well, E=MC2 doesn't have much to do with why a baseball thrown fast might knock you down, either.

....I think this journalist is not going to let the truth get in the way of a good story.

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01/19/2017 11:47 PM

Yeah, that one was lost on me too.

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01/20/2017 9:39 AM

Isn't that the first rule of journalism 101?

That, and of course, looking like you just stepped out the "Barbi" and "Ken" farm. With all those looks going for you, one does not need sharp wit, math skills, or science education......see? Even a grumpy old man can get over himself after a while.

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01/20/2017 8:49 PM

Yeah, well, E=MC2 doesn't have much to do with why a baseball thrown fast might knock you down, either

Unless it's made of plutonium and you're holding another chunk of plutonium...

I would say that someone that loves physics but doesn't understand math probably just likes to lift a few quotes here and there to drop into the conversation in order to sound profound.

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01/22/2017 2:46 AM

I used to understand math, but it is getting harder to focus as I get older. I think I am about done, time to roast me on the other side a while.

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01/19/2017 8:06 PM

The last time I skied downhill I pointed the skis where I wouldn't hit anything. But then I was using an old pair of wooden skis with no edges. I could ski sideways.

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01/19/2017 8:12 PM

I like Nordic skiing because the lodge was built with donations and volunteer labor. It's rather primitive with wood heat. It does have inside plumbing but there's a vault toilet outside if you prefer. You bring your own food but some groups have potlucks. I scored my skis for free, a plastic set for above freezing and a wooden set for below. I can usually hitch a ride with friends and save on parking and pass fees.

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01/19/2017 8:18 PM

On Mount Spokane there is the Summit House, a stone building built by the CCC during the depression. They'll often have food service there and the prices are fairly reasonable considering the location. It's a welcome respite after we've snowshoed up there. I suppose people using the lift could eat there too but they usually head right back down the mountain. I hear the main lodge is nice but I've never been there.

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01/19/2017 8:22 PM

Now they've got me thinking about the physics of riding a bicycle. Whether you ride a $10,000 racer or a $10 junker the rules are the same. And the junker can be more fun.

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01/22/2017 8:51 PM

My dad said he would ski strait at a tree, lift one ski, and go around it. Then he would go down the same tracks again and lift the other ski. I pity the guy decided to follow his tracks.

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01/23/2017 9:08 AM

If I had done, all I would have managed is to lift one leg, and pee on myself.

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