Generator Neutral Grounding

Do your own homework. CR4 is not a homework cheat site; however, if you have questions about understanding concepts or how a portion of a problem is derived, these types of questions will be accepted.

Maybe if you read some of the many websites that are available you could gain some real knowledge instead of just getting the answers to your test questions.

Unraveling the Confusion over Generator Power and Neutral ...

Well, I wouldn't want anyone to think I was a big meanie.

This particular poster doesn't want to do any of their own work.

They bring elementary questions with obvious answers here and expect the forum to spoon feed the answers bo them so they don't have to do any work.

If they're a student, they should be failed.

If they're someone's employee, they should be fired.

You would think that since joining on 07/05/2011 this person might have learned something.

All they've learned is how to come here and get the forum to do their work.

Yes, but you should be capable of applying Ohms Law yourself!!!!!

coolyaar, please, do all of us a great big favour and find a new occupation!

Going on previous posts you are a danger to humanity.

respect your views but my boss does not think so

Does your boss know that you ask anonymous strangers to do your job for you?

hm.he will never mind

So you admit that you are incompetent and devoid of professional ethics and that your boss does not care that you are a fraud and you are dealing with lethal electrical power?

Where do you work? What is your company name?

For a person who doesn't know anything about anything whatsoever, you are certainly on the right garbage thread.

any idea what will be the secondary loading resistor value and the grounding transformer impedence referred to any side.

Yes, but I am not telling you.

This is getting out of hand. You and your boss are acting in a vey unethical and dangerous manner.

You are clearly out of your depth so hire a professional consultancy firm for help. CR4 is not a substitute, nor should it be. If we continue to help and YOU get someone killed that's partly on us.

No it isn't. This is an anonymous forum. Especially with an undefined <...us...>.

Well yes it is because we would know. It's one of those ethical dilemmas, would you feel responsible if you helped someone do something that resulted in the death of another?

We wouldn't be having this conversation would we if this was a medical forum and a clearly unqualified doctor was asking us how to operate on a patient? Why should it be ethically any different for us Engineers on an Engineering forum?

A bad doctor can kill a patient or two, a bad Engineer could potentially kill many more.

Simply, because there is no such thing on this forum as <...we...>.

I am not questioning the legal, common sense, or free-advice-from-strangers aspects; it's about ethical responsibility from those that post answers.

Some people who ask questions on CR4 should not be given the answers, for their safety and others, especially if you are convinced they will likely use this information in an unethical way (such as to perform a job they are not qualified to do or repeatedly using CR4 as a crutch rather than putting effort into learning how to do it themselves).

Obviously this is a very grey area subject to personal interpretation of the limited provided information on CR4 and personal opinion.

Those that have never taken a course in professional ethics may only have a vague idea of what I am talking about. I and others will offer answers or express our opinions but others are free to also.

First of all, I don't think someone takes us seriously since no one is actually interested on our answers. From the usually non significant data we get, we have to build a virtual story and answers very far from reality. So, in my humble opinion, we have to thank to Mr. Coolyaar for his inquiry and not blame him.

At the beginning of my carrier as an Electrical Engineer specialized in design and engineering of electrical machines-including transformers-the first open post I found was as designer of power supply station for water supply pumps.

The head of designer group asked me "to design a motor" for a pump. I asked him in turn, "it cannot be a standard one?" The answer was no, it is not listed [in tabulated??]. So I calculated the required HP and started the great my first job. After a few days, I returned to the head of group with ten pages of three alternatives of motor design including technology and list of materials. "What is this?" the manager cried, terrified, "I ask you to fit a motor to this pump only." "Sorry boss," I said, "in my world the sentence has to be 'choose a motor for this pump, not to design it. That's what I did in the first half an hour.'"

What I wanted to say is, "one could be a good engineer, but in a new job. What he needs is a simple engineering tip."

I am sure Mr. Coolyaar does not intend to build such a resistance nor to install it. Am I right?

Moral [to boss]: "Be careful what you ask for - you may actually get it."

haha.that was funny.

This is common here.

Many posters come here because they "have to design" a "thing" when in reality they just need to be pointed to a data sheet or catalog.

Haris, I believe, just wants someone to do his work for him.

Have a look at his question thread and post history, it raises a lot of red flags for me as someone who works in the power industry.

Repeated questions on HV MW scale system design and safety protection systems is quite a different kettle of fish to asking how to size a motor to a pump.

Cheating their way through school is a huge and age-old problem in India and Pakistan, in part because of huge social pressures to do so, and so it comes as no surprise that graduates eventually find their way into jobs where their lack of knowledge has potential to do great harm. Not only cheat their way through school, but continue this trend on-the-job to cover their arse. It's only a matter of time where thousands are killed as a result. I'm not saying this is the case here necessarily, but neither would I be surprised given the OP's other posts.

I (and others here I am sure) are aware of these problems and a number of the threads on CR4 could be argued to appear to be just that.

We don't normally state this in our posts but rather stick with what information we have as it can cloud discussions if we jump to conclusions, especially if we are not sure if this is actually the issue. May times we don't know where the poster is from, and what has appeared at first glance to be the case has turned out to be a simple misunderstanding due to language barriers or lack of communication issues.

Yes, but this particular OP is from Lahore, Pakistan where he supposedly graduated with a degree in Electrical Engineering. For someone with a degree in electrical engineering to be here asking this question and similarly uninformed questions on his other posts (about 3-phase load balancing, for example, posted anonymously), and what we have here is clearly not a language issue, but one of an 'education' possibly obtained by questionable means. For someone with an E.E. degree, he seems suspiciously unfamiliar with basic electrical principles. I'm just calling it as I see it.

I missed that bit of information (I can only work with what I have got), which post did this relevant bit of information come up in?

Not that it matters that much, I assumed he HAD to have an Engineering Degree or similar based on the serious high voltage and high power real world project questions he was asking for design answers on.

coolyaar

“Currently working as a Power systems Engineer in Schneider Electric Canada Inc.”

If this the same person I don’t know if I can agree with you.

Schneider Electric it has to be a good recommendation.

I have two very large issues with Haris, competence and conscience.

For your clarity, i never asked any question anonymously. i asked about things of which i was not 100% sure. i just needed to get confirmation from experts about what i learn. text books cannot give that confirmation because field problems are much different that what we studied in text books. Just give reference from one text book where they contain information about sizing of generator neutral grounding transformer and loading resistor and i will accept that i am incompetent else you will have to apologize.

I also believe that you are incompetent, and lazy.

The questions you ask indicate that you HAVE MUCH to learn and just don't want to put forth any effort!

<...will have to apologize...>

You may consult Post Glover "the resistor specialist"

http://www.postglover.com/neutral-grounding-transformer/