Fagor CNC Threading Error 017

Contact the manufacturer's tech support. What does the user's manual say?

Brilliant technical reply laddie :)

its a 20 year old machine , factory support might reply within a few weeks if they do at all.

and I am hoping to do this emergency job on a Sunday.......because it's an emergency job.

The manual gives only the information I already posted.

Sorry I couldn't be more helpful.

:)

its a very old machine by CNC standards and fagor has a low volume of market presence compared to fanuc heidenhain Siemens etc , so not many people will be familiar with them.

thankyou.

The problem has been resolved :

tool wear adjustment couldnt be applied when Z and X are set to zero in the tool table. go figure .

and the error codes refer to a fault in the process which follows , not to the actual fault.

:)

By George, I think she's got it!

--Colonel Pickering in "My Fair Lady"

(iirc)

That would be Prof. Henry Higgins.

Oh, well, idrc, but at least I put in the caveat. Of course, it had to be one or the other.

See? I tole ya not to be pokin' yer fingers into the slots, Laddie!

<...reply...>? The original poster needs to use the telephone, for goodness' sake!

Telephone ?

why ?

i don't speak Spanish and do you really think any factory offers support for a 20 year old machine ?

Probably no support other than sending you an old withered copy of the manual, not Manual.

Apparently, your parameter data is inconsistent across three lines of data.

How did you manage to get yourself into this pickle of working with a CNC machine you are unfamiliar with in an emergency situation? Sounds like you leaped before you looked.

Punch in the I, K values the same all the way down to the turtles and try again (Laddie).

The " three lines of data" you refer to is part of the tool table , you only need one of the lines correct for the tool you are using , the others don't matter until you fit a tool in that tool position.

setting I & K values for all of them is irrelevant because they were not the problem , the problem was not having values in X and Z fields higher than zero even if the tool insert tip was at zero millimetres on Z axis.

the error codes generated didn't refer to the problem ,but to a process next in line .

i am sure the software improved in later models so that error codes refer to the actual problem.

:)

Is the threading parameter initiated.

after rereading, I see it must be...

with what your describe.

the manual says I & k are correction factors to allow for tool wear along X and Z axis.

What type of parameter is the tool compensation using for G41, G42

tool wear, or tool radius?

It refers to tool wear

but tool wear figure is not the problem as stated above.

the I & K values couldn't be applied unless there was a figure in Z and X axis of at least 0.0001 mm due to an oversight in the original controller software .

the software couldn't add I & K to a value of zero.

This is a problem with older machines... lock of good documentations as well ass translation. And as I understand it, it was purchased used,... did you buy it from a end user or a used equipment dealer.

Through either way, you may want to contact the end user.

I have the manuals but they are lacking detail . In fact google searches find a common complaint with those machines that "the manuals are lousy" .

i purchased it from an engineering shop but they would prefer to duck and hide rather help , they might feel embarrassed over some defects they forgot to mention. ;)

Caveat emptor!