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04/01/2017 2:48 AM

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04/01/2017 4:07 AM

Yes it must remember it's snowflake pattern.....

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04/02/2017 7:51 AM

Something that has intrigued me, is;

Re snowflakes - how does each H2O molecule know how to align, on freezing, the same as five other molecules, presumable simultaneously, each gazillions of molecules apart, to be able to form the perfect snowflake?

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04/02/2017 8:35 AM

Haven't I read somewhere that no two "snowflakes" are identical. Seriously!!

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In ice crystals, water molecules line up and form a six-sided shape called a hexagon. This is why all snowflakes are six-sided. ... Even though two snowflakes may form in the same cloud, their different journeys to the ground will affect their shape and size, giving each snowflake its own unique identity.

Me being one helps of course!

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04/02/2017 1:30 PM

Spooky crystallization at a distance? Free floating DNA particles? I suspect a spec of instructions has infiltrated every aspect of change....Maybe Water Bears play a role?

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04/02/2017 2:17 PM

The environment the snowflake travels through as it's forming. Changes in the environment (humidity, temperature, wind) take place over a volume larger than the snowflake and so affect its 'branches' similarly. Each snowflake travels through slightly different environments over its lifetime, producing variations in the basic design. For example, even one snowflake immediately following another will be different than the one ahead, as the snowflake ahead of it has 'scooped-up' a minute amount of the available moisture from the volume through which the second is now passing.

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04/02/2017 8:18 PM

Not asking why are they all different, Andrew.

Q is 'how does each H2O molecule know in what alignment to freeze, or actually sublimate, so that the finished product is six way symmetrical? Is it a six way quantum entanglement?

And then, when the pattern changes, how do they all know to change at the 'same' location?

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04/02/2017 11:23 PM

Perhaps this will better explain the mechanism. And this.

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04/02/2017 12:19 PM

If each form is a girl, then probably water has lots of girlfriends, each one unique that is. I wonder if it remembers one unique set of form when the next rain comes.

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04/01/2017 4:41 AM

I remembers being contaminated..

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04/02/2017 12:20 PM

Intriguing, how does it forget?

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04/01/2017 7:49 AM

This sounds pretty hokey to me... but the homeopathy folks like it. He also says DNA emits electromagnetic radiation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luc_Montagnier

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_memory

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04/01/2017 12:17 PM

Haha, Dude my crystals are so lighting up right now....

..."They were published in a new journal of which he is chairman of the editorial board,[5] allegedly[3] detecting electromagnetic signals from bacterial DNA (M. pirum and E. coli) in water that had been prepared using agitation and high dilutions,[24] "...

Gentlemen please, a little arms length....well he wouldn't be the first scientist to go a little crazy after being cooped up in a lab for so many years ....

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04/01/2017 1:16 PM

"He also says DNA emits electromagnetic radiation."

Well, it does, as does everything else above absolute zero. It's what he's not saying (ie, the foregoing) that is significant.

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04/02/2017 12:26 PM

What yields my attention is, the researcher says, it recalls past dna it came contact with. Well, if its really true. This does means alot to crime investigation(csi) and new knowledge in biomolecular science.

I wonder, if we freeze water, does it still recalls the data it acquired? How then can water forgets?

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04/02/2017 2:01 PM

Pseudoscience.

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04/02/2017 3:17 PM

YouTube is rife with pseudoscience and just plain BS, reflecting the number of charlatans out there who'd just love for you to take their latest brain-dead theories to heart. There are even people who will start their own scientific-sounding publications to lend an air of credibility to their nonsense. Lots of charlatans, so what to do? Arm yourself. This is a good place to start:

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04/02/2017 6:36 PM

I heard some nobel price, I might have been mistaken.

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04/01/2017 8:07 AM

The video is decidedly silly.

Water does have memory in a sense though. Latent heat of fusion and latent heat of vaporization result in current phase of material depending heavily on past conditions.

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04/01/2017 9:41 AM

The high heat capacity of water is a result of the energy required to break hydrogen bonds as water is heated and the heat given off when they are remade upon cooling.

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04/01/2017 10:50 AM

Sure.

Also when your neurons are stimulated by an electrical impulse, neurotransmitters are released into the synaptic gap, bind with receptors and change the permeability of the membrane to certain ions (K, Cl, Na,Ca) affecting the potential charge of the neuron. That is one process involved in human memory... does the explanation make it any less memory?

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04/01/2017 12:32 PM

Sorry, don't believe a word of it.

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04/01/2017 2:44 PM

April Fools Day!

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04/01/2017 3:15 PM

Hey I hear Cr4 management is going to start awarding $20 for every GA vote...but you have to register....

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04/01/2017 6:01 PM

Is that another April 1st. line?

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04/01/2017 10:45 PM

Retroactively?

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04/02/2017 1:46 AM

It certainly appears to be written on the first of the fourth month, so I 'guess' this is an April 1 joke.

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04/02/2017 4:23 AM

1-4-2017?

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04/02/2017 4:26 PM

And I have a bridge for sale cheaply in Brooklyn. You could charge tolls.

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04/03/2017 10:48 AM

That's what naturopathic medicine is all about.

Take an molecule and dilute it, then dilute it and dilute it some more and all the water remembers that first molecule's vibrations that went into it.

Loved the naturopathic mood enhancers in Pushing Daisies and Lilys overdose of the same.

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04/10/2017 3:40 PM

Naturopathic? Is that some offshoot of Homeopathy?

It seems to have borrowed Homeopathy's "if you dilute something in water, the water takes on the traits of the something. and if you dilute the water further, the strength of the properties grows" principle. However, if you look at the Earth's water cycle, you would realize that every drop of water on the planet is already a several-million times dilution of EVERY CHEMICAL that makes up the Earth, if Homeopathy were true. If that were the case, then every drop of moisture in our bodies would contain a perfect panacea, and we would be immune from all illnesses and even death. Since this is not the case, then the foundation of Homeopathy and any -pathy derived from it is flawed and false.

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04/11/2017 4:00 AM

Interesting thoughts. Thanks for sharing.

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