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What is a Singularity?

06/03/2017 6:40 AM

More speculation? Watching the TV programme Genius, a couple of remarks have caught my attention, one in particular, a singularity. I have always thought of the singularity at the beginning of time, as being, a small sphere having no relative size, position, nor whether stationary or moving? And the big bang started at that point? So speculating, what if we add a new dimension, before the normal four-dimensions, called static, Static being the situation before the big bang, having no time or objects. Next coming into existence, the singularity, a force, not a sphere, but as a condition parallel with the dimension static, some thing relative, which reaches into infinity, which like static, has no time or object, an object being a force with boundaries. So, next to evolve, the four dimensions? An inter reaction between the singularity and the static? Alternating behaviour? So in quantum entanglement is spooky action an alternating action with the static dimension? A force not related to time? Any constructive thoughts? And yes, I know its pushing things.

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Re: What is a singularity?

06/03/2017 8:00 AM

A singularity is a point where a mathematical function is not defined. It either evaluates to infinity, 0/0, etc.

As you approach a black hole, the curvature of space (gravity) becomes stronger and stronger. At zero distance (the center of the black hole) it would theoretically become infinite, the singularity.

In general, a singularity represents a physically impossible condition. It usually means that "something breaks down" before that point and different physical laws apply.

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06/03/2017 11:45 AM

"A singularity is a point where a mathematical function is not defined. It either evaluates to infinity, 0/0, etc."

I might mention here that many of these are apparent singularities brought on by a particular choice of coordinates. They're artefacts of that choice and not true singularities in the sense that they can be mitigated by a different choice. The poles of a spherical coordinate system, for example. Where a function 'blows up' at the pole, the problem can be resolved by a simple transformation.

The singularity at the centre of a black hole, however, is different. It's a type of 'essential' singularity, that is, one that cannot be removed by any choice of coordinates. Essential singularities are where the shite really hits the fan.

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06/04/2017 8:56 PM

Seems like the main thing that fails is our ability to identify it mathematically.

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06/05/2017 12:27 PM

Isn't it sort of like an asymptote, but with an actual (astronomical) limit, like Warp 9?...

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06/03/2017 4:30 PM

It certainly is probable that there are forces and conditions that we as humans are not aware of, they exist beyond what the 5 senses can detect, and therefore must be theoretically presumed by thought...These conditions and forces are given names because we know something is happening, just not exactly sure what...We call them dark energy, dark matter, singularity and others...There have been theories of dimensions of many shapes and properties and there certainly is the possibility that an interaction with unseen dimensions of some sort, play some role in these unknown phenomena...The trick as I see it is to develop tools and methods to detect and measure these unknown forces and phenomena....So how do you go about developing tools and methods of detecting some force or alternate reality when you don't know what it's properties are....? That to me is the big question that faces us all...We can come up with theories till doomsday, but without a way to test or prove them, we will still be in the dark.....

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06/03/2017 6:49 PM

Thank you.

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06/03/2017 6:57 PM

A singularity is just half of a doubularity.

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06/03/2017 9:41 PM

"Singularity" is one of those words that has migrated out of the technical domain into common usage and in the process morphed to mean a lot of different things. Another example is "Quantum Jump" which has acquired totally different meanings from the original.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_electron_transition

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06/03/2017 10:40 PM

Verner Vinge helped push the term into common usage with his book The Coming Technological Singularity. Ray Kurzweil furthered the idea in his follow-up The Singularity is Near (neither of which have anything to do with mathematical/physical singularities). We can thank these guys for diluting the meaning.

Meanwhile - and true to form - the metaphysicists/tinfoil hats/pseudoscience gits have gotten hold of it and now it means whatever they bluddy want it to mean (cuz it sounds nice and 'scientific'), what with other buzzwords like 'quantum <insert favourite noun here>' having become so passé these days and fallen out-of-vogue.

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06/04/2017 7:54 AM

Along with negative (and sometimes positive) feedback.

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06/04/2017 7:24 PM

I've always considered a Singularity as being Bald, fat, ugly, and broke. Don't ask me how I know ;-)

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Re: What is a Singularity?

06/05/2017 4:05 PM

In science, a singularity can be any system where the rate of change of property approaches +/- infinity. This includes such things as phase transitions of materials.

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Re: What is a Singularity?

06/05/2017 11:56 PM

Well, to some, its actually keeping single for the rest of your life, though pushing things is not excluded.

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06/06/2017 10:25 AM

testing your limits again are we gut?

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06/06/2017 11:16 AM

Yeah, probably.

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06/06/2017 5:12 PM

How the big bang looked before it happened depends which theory you hold to be true at this point (ie "believe") the Cylical Model or the more traditional model or something else

The notion that before the 4 or 10 or 11 or 26 dimensions appeared there must be something that the dimensions spread across is appealing but not required.

I recommend you read https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complex_spacetime and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twistor_theory

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06/07/2017 9:23 AM

My head will not wrap around the Twistor theory, sorry. I get torqued off when reading such abstract ideas. The older I get, I am afraid things will not improve.

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