Hearing Damage in U.S. Diplomats in Cuba

I heard a story on NPR this morning that downplayed the possibility of a sonic weapon, but I don't think there were any further ideas about what IS responsible. Most mysterious.

It could be some unknown virus or bacterial infection....could be exposure to toxic off gassing of some chemicals or materials in use....some piece of equipment that is used in this office space could be emitting ultrasonic waves....could be ultrasonic warning devices that are used as signaling that water is present in some piece of equipment....could be a device mounted on the building to repel wild dogs....could be somebody experimenting with ultrasonic navigation systems for the blind....could be some sort of communication system that is malfunctioning...could be some nerdy kid thinking this is funny....

So you now freely admit to possessing this new mind-control technology? How come you have not imprinted your vast cranial capacity on some of these sprout engineers (that actually think they are engineers) that keep showing up on here with these wild "green" energy plans. I would sooner hear about growing wild green onions.

By the way: The NK's and the Iranians do have agents in Havanna, and they are wicked mean to the extreme. They need to be sought out and destroyed with all haste (not by us, but by the Cubanos), in a gesture of good will for neighbors to the north.

Then Cuba needs to box up 10,000 cases of the best rum, and another 10,000 cases of boxes of their finest cigars with Havano wrappers and send them north in another good will gesture. We can then invite some of them over for a BBQ. I am sure Cubanos would like some BBQ beef with their black beans. Why can't we all just get along? This is not the 1960's, it is time for people to start caring about their neighbors, not fighting all the time with them. That is, except when they start being a real pain in the posterior.

They have made useful (or disuseful depending how one looks at it) advantage of some military type sound equipment originally produced in the USA for crowd control (when riots are taking place, for example). I think it is phased array speakers, that project essentially a coherent acoustic beam. In lower frequencies including infra-sound, it produces queasy feelings, affects balance, with nausea.

Now, if the perpetrators of this (Cubans or others in nearby buildings from other embassies for example, or other foreign agents, as it seems premature to be blaming the Cubans for anything that happens), are using some form of "beam" to produce coupling that can be picked up and separated in spectrum and phase from the audio frequencies (at a window), then they would have a listening device.

However, my feeling: North Koreans and/or Iranians are behind this, and should be lined up to a wall (by the Cubanos) and shot. If it was my country and we had foreign agents undertaking these villainous actions there against my good friends the Cubans (tongue almost in cheek there), I would want the same action undertaken on the Cubans behalf. That is what friendship is all about.

These actors are doing serious disservice to the host country, if they are third party foreign agents in that country's diplomatic mission. It gives Cuba a bad name, so I suspect they are eager to find the source of this irritant, and remove it like a tick.

Cuba should really step up to the plate (unless they are hiding something, and are acting guiltily in shame), and work to put a stop to these tactics.

What would Iran or North Korea stand to gain?

If worsening relations between the US and Cuba were the goal, the countries that would likely benefit from that would be prime suspects. Venezuela has been among the top importers and exporters from Cuba, and their economy is small enough that there is a threat in improving US-Cuba relations.

You said "If it was my country and we had foreign agents undertaking these villainous actions there against my good friends".

You did. Right here in the USA. Can you say Russian agents? Election? Face Book? Hacking?

It would seem rather clear to me who is sophisticated enough to do this and it's not "North Koreans and/or Iranians."

That would certainly fit with the general Russian gaslighting theme.

My comments taken out of context, and I resent that.

Are we still going to be hashing over old, fake news with no substance? Really? Grow up! Get over it, and move on.

Nothing was taken out of context.

Your ignorance of current (actual) events is telling.

Baloney! I am clearly at least as informed as you, I am just very selective in what propaganda I watch. You can keep your hog wash on your side of fence, please.

Breitbart and Faux news? That would be comical if it weren't so sad.

You can stop putting your foot in your mouth any time now, I am tired of your tirades and boisterous protestations signifying nothing.

I won't bother you with statistics. I won't bother you much at all. You and all your goons stay off my property, and don't come polluting my town with your idiocy.

Otherwise we may have a problem.

NOW KIDS.... DON'T MAKE ME COME BACK THERE!!!

True Lyn. There are a large number of people who simply do not understand World War 3 has already started because it's not a "conventional" war.

Well, so far it is more of a shouting war between Lyn and myself. I know which one is full of hops, and I have not had a beer in months.

Array Phasing of transmitters of any kind could theoretically be used to pinpoint resonant power in a given space and within a given range. The transmitters could be undetectable individually or if measured from any non-resonant point in space, and so would not reveal the entire system. I figure there is a way to use transmitters to accomplish an intentional attack, but what I want to know is ... Who did the attacking?

Cuba mystery grows: New details on what befell US diplomats - AP News

I think that may be what is being used in Cuba.

As I speculated in my post,a high freq audio carrier(Envelope),with audible modulation.

I knew this was how AM radio worked,but I didn't realize it would work with sound wave as well as RF.

I had no idea that this would really work.DANG! Wish I had thought of this years ago!

I have also been thinking about binaural beats,where two different frequencies are combined by the brain to produce a frequency otherwise not within the hearing range.

A person "Hears" the resulting difference frequency.

If of sufficient amplitude and frequency,could this also wreak havoc with one's brain and hearing?

Just thinking out loud.

Nice find, cool technology....

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/20141124060441-1767830-using-high-intensity-ultrasound-for-electronic-harassment-targeted-individuals

Got any more on this, or did it go dark?

Another missed application: Football coach sends plays to his quarterback without having a wireless on the player's person. Of course, the other team would get wise, and enact counter-measures (probably a personal foul).

Now that guy is an interesting fellow to listen to (even from one mile away)!

I wonder if the embassies themselves could be emitting ultrasonic tones to jam and/or prevent eavesdropping by spies and it is harming themselves.

Unlikely.

"Aside from their homes, officials said Americans were attacked in at least one hotel, a fact not previously disclosed. An incident occurred on an upper floor of the recently renovated Hotel Capri, a 60-year-old concrete tower steps from the Malecon, Havana’s iconic, waterside promenade."

Ultrasonics work very well for this.

I loved an application that was distributed in this country to shopowners who didn't want (non-purchasing) kids hanging around their storefronts. It was a 21kHZ sound that the kids found loud and annoying, but that more mature (money-spending) customers couldn't hear anymore.

I also recall a thread on this forum from a fellow complaining about a neighbor's dog repeller that he could hear (being young) and measure, but that was outside the noise frequency scale regulated by his local municipality. I recall suggesting that he set up his own system with a slightly offset frequency to make a beat frequency in the regulated audible range so that his neighbor would think his system was broken and turn it off.

Yes, but it is infrasound (below about 30 Hz) that causes nausea. Ultrasound does one thing, infrasound, quite another.

Seems like some sort of mind control experiment....Doc I keep hearing voices in my head.....What are they saying?....I don't know I can't make it out......Perhaps some exploratory hypnotism into the subconscious is called for...? Hypnosis via sonic wave technology, a new weapon? You are getting sleepy....wha' who said that?! When you see the president you will bark like a dog....

Bow to the wow, to the wow, bow, wow. Pants legs? Did I just see pants legs moving?

Squirrel, squirrel, squirrel!

According to the last Rick and Morty, the squirrels were busy destabilizing Guatemala and selecting the next Pope. I didn't know there were any squirrel interests in Cuba.

Squirrels and barking mad dogs have always held certain interest in Cubar. (to quote JFK).

I get all my inside info from Woofination. The head cheese there is the big BowWow.

Why are we already selecting the next Pope? Something wrong with this one?

The new Pope was being selected in the event that the Exxon/Monsanto settlement fell through in Africa.

Current affairs man, get with it.

Huh? First I heard about this... I feel a spoof coming on.

Squirrels and dogs would be very interesting during the hypocaloric periods Cuba has endured over the past several decades.

I suspect populations are much reduced compared to what one would find if south Florida, for example.

I am fairly certain our government knows exactly how this was done. who is doing it is the question. perhaps the left hand and the right hand are not talking.

I am very limited in what I can say. I was in the service through the mid 70s. saw some of these items in person. To the best of my knowledge it is still classified.

From post 8 bottom. I know that our government has used this technique on non test subjects. it does work. I know that the parabolic football like shaped antenna to do this will fit in a fat briefcase, except for the power supply. that was in the 70s. today it will probably all fit in a briefcase. I don't think that the antenna can't be made smaller. sending just the "carrier" at full power with random info would work to cause the damage done.

all of the above can be found in public records if you know what to look for.

? what is the range of resonant frequencies of the human skull? How fast can that range be swept?

If you are really curious and want to see an antenna, research videos from the branch davidian mess that happened in waco texas. There was one up on a pole facing into the compound during the siege.

signing off. will not be back to this string.