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Lifting Lug Design Loads

12/08/2017 3:44 AM

Folks need your help

I have 100 ton vessel as errection weight

it is horozontle vessel with 2 lifting lug

how to get forces for WRC ?? If I m using sparder beam

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Re: Lifting Lug design loads

12/08/2017 5:20 AM

errection erection

horozontle horizontal

lug lugs

sparder spreader

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12/09/2017 7:54 AM

Sanktmoanius a-hole

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12/09/2017 10:42 AM

Sanktmoanius It's sanctimonious. Karma's a bitch, ain't it!

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12/11/2017 9:21 AM

Ovywind is obviously a "newbie" and is by birth or education not familiar with "proper English". That said Ovywind asks a very important question. I must admit that until 2 years ago, with my +20 years of industrial steel fabrication and sculpture installation, it often needs to be asked. Kudos on Ovywind for asking and fie on you for being a pretentious jackass. All your "educating" does is make people like Ovywind reticent to ask important questions because in doing so they subject themselves to embarrassment from fools like you.

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12/08/2017 7:47 AM

Look in the library here on the Excelcalcs site... there's excel programs just for this lifting lugs....

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12/08/2017 7:50 AM

Discuss the matter with the Engineer/Surveyor from the company that is supplying burst/collapse indemnity insurance cover for the vessel. This individual will need to witness the lifting lug test and sign for acceptance before the vessel is moved, and will certainly need detailed drawings of the vessel beforehand.

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12/08/2017 7:53 AM

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12/11/2017 11:56 AM

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Indeed yes. Once again, insufficient information to give an educated guess. Not sure where the OP is posting from, but crane rental outfits also offer this service when using their equipment. Sounds like it could be defined as a "critical" lift to me - at least in my jurisdiction - which requires that a P.Eng. sign off on it.

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12/08/2017 1:58 PM

"how to get forces for WRC ?"

By hiring a registered mechanical engineer who is willing to incur the risk of inflicting permanent injury, or death, on the riggers involved in this lift!

This is no job for a beginner, such as yourself.

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12/09/2017 1:30 AM

Is this a homework question?

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12/09/2017 6:59 AM

I'm picturing a lifting lug in his nose.

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12/09/2017 11:04 AM

You either missed my sarcasm or even more sarcastic than I am.

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12/09/2017 11:45 AM

I think you meant to reply to #8 and yes to both.

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12/09/2017 11:59 AM

No, I replied exactly where I wanted to. As for both, good on you.

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12/10/2017 1:53 PM

If it already is fitted with lifting lugs are you not just trying to find the centre of gravity of the existing vessel?

What does WRC stand for?

Is the vessel that non-uniform in shape and mass that the centre of gravity for lifting is not obvious? A simple spreader beam seems to me like an odd choice as a practical lifting method for such a heavy (uniformly shaped?) vessel.

Is this a homework question, it seems like an odd request?

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12/11/2017 6:26 PM

ovywind ....

Your question is poorly worded and confusing. Your command of English is minimal, which, of course, affects the quality of the answers that you desire and wastes everyone's time.

I can only guess that you have been assigned to perform an evaluation of a lifting lug design. Is this correct ?

This is probably the first time that you have ever done this and there is probably no senior engineer available to help you.

Your reference to "WRC" (the USA Welding Research Council) probably refers to the commonly used methodologies used to perform an evaluation of pressure vessel nozzles. Some of the bulletins used are WRC 107 and 297....

These decades old WRC methodologies are the wrong tools to use for your purpose.

Purchase a book on pressure vessel design and read the notes. There are many

Or perform a google search using the terms " lifting lug design" or "padeye design"

Could you restate your question ?

....Or have you abandoned this thread ???

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Re: Lifting Lug Design Loads

05/10/2018 3:13 AM

Yes.. The Question is not proper. but Industry experts should guide the fresher in proper way rather than making fun of his language or knowledge!!!!!

My advise to you.....Please go through Good Pressure Vessel Handbooks like "Dennis R Moss" to learn the basics. After that If you have still any doubts, please raise a valid question which can be answered by an EXPERT!!!!!!!!!

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