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How to Increase the Power Output of a 300 Watt Broadcast Amplifier?

10/10/2018 11:57 AM

The link below is the schematic for the design of a 300 watt broadcast amplifier ?

https://www.electroschematics.com/19/300w-fm-88-108-mhz-amplifier-tp9383

This amplifier uses two tp9383 transistors. The individual output power of each individual transistor is 150 watts. A link to the specification sheet of this transistor is provided below:

https://www.mouser.com/datasheet/2/453/tp9383-15678.pdf

As you can see from the schematic, there is a simple pattern of repeating the same basic circuit with another of the same transistor to double the output wattage, then combining their individual output power wattages together in the final stage, resulting in a doubling of the output power.

Hypothetically, if a person were to continue this pattern six more times for a total of eight transistors, would they get an output wattage of approximately 1.2Kw ?

If yes, can this be done indefinetely, or rather, what is the limit ?

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Re: How to Increase the Power Output of a 300 Watt Broadcast Amplifier?

10/10/2018 1:24 PM

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Re: How to Increase the Power Output of a 300 Watt Broadcast Amplifier?

10/10/2018 1:29 PM

The schematic shows that the two amplifiers on the assembly are driven 180 degrees out of phase. Note from the physical layout that the two circuits are carefully matched (length of transmission lines) so that the two outputs will 180 degrees out of phase and are then used to push/pull drive the output transmission line.

It seems that you could combine 2, 3, or 4 assemblies together, which would require making sure the inputs were in phase and the amplifiers were all matched to each other in gain and delay so that the outputs would also be in phase.

So, in theory, I believe it can be done but with careful attention to RF circuit design layout principles. The more amplifiers that are paralleled, the lower the output impedance of the combination. For optimum power transfer, the output impedance of the assembly of amplifiers should match the impedance looking into the load which will probably require some sort of matching network.

However, I would contact the vendor for a final ruling...

Example circuit:

http://www.analog.com/en/technical-articles/paralleling-amplifiers-increases-output-drive.html

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10/10/2018 2:02 PM

I was looking at the wrong circuit....
Now for the RF one... you can't just slap extra transistors in there, it's all layout critical and unless you really really really know what you are doing, it's not going to work.
And the fact that you've asked the question shows that you won't get it to work, you'll just get a lot of blown transistors and a red hot power supply.
Sorry... but RF is a black art... even Harry Potter won't touch it
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10/10/2018 5:27 PM

Agreed. At 108 MHz, one cycle is less than 10 nanoseconds, so parallel amplifiers need to differ in delay by less than a nanosecond. You can't just slap a circuit like this together.

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10/10/2018 2:12 PM

The limiting factor will always be the breakdown voltage and currents of the output transistors.

There are some tricky things going on in that schematic that makes me wonder how useful or stable of an amplifier design this will be. It almost looks like a stripline circuit was built using coaxial cables. Because of this, the layout of these cables in reference to the chassis (GND) will become critical.

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Re: How to Increase the Power Output of a 300 Watt Broadcast Amplifier?

10/10/2018 4:49 PM
  1. Another way of increasing the apparent power would be only to transmit one of the sidebands.
  2. Another way of increasing the apparent power would be to use a directional antenna at both transmit and receive locations.
  3. Another way of increasing the power would be to use a "co-linear" antenna.

Radio "Hams" do this sort of stuff all the time.

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10/10/2018 5:08 PM

As others have said in theory yes provided it is done carefully, in practice you will likely end up with a parasitic oscillator and blow out the transistors.

Being a ham operator I have successfully built amps for the 2 meter band before although less than 300 watts. I have also built amps that ended up oscillating which was obvious when the transistors got very hot without any input. RF can be tricky as others refer to it a black art although I wouldn't go that far. The higher the frequency and power the more complicated it tends to get. Since RF is intended to radiate if you give it a chance to do so on the circuit it will. Two components near each other or circuit traces that happen to be some multiple of the wavelength and you have a feedback loop.

The successful circuits I have built were all done on a ground plane, a pcb with very few traces. Usually just a small pad where two parts meet, basically surface mount in a physically well laid out design.

I have to ask, why do you want to build an amplifier of that power for the FM broadcast frequency. The FCC is strict about the use of this frequency. Provided you have the appropriate license to operate I wouldn't trust a diy approach. You will need to do a lot of testing with good equipment to verify it has a clean output or you risk losing the station license.

If you design a successful amplifier for the frequency range and power it will be capable of amplifying more than just the intended range. You will need lots of filtering to ensure that no harmonics from the exciter are amplified. You will need a spectrum analyzer and attenuator to monitor the output to ensure it stays that way. It is likely that the measurement equipment is more than the cost of the amp, so why diy the amp?

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Re: How to Increase the Power Output of a 300 Watt Broadcast Amplifier?

10/11/2018 6:33 PM

<...what is the limit ?...>

There are several:

  • The maximum output power of the power supply circuitry is one: clearly, if the power supply board were only capable of producing <...300 watts...>, taking more out of it by cloning more circuitry into the RF stage might cause a circuit protective device to operate to disconnect it or, in its absence, the proverbial next weakest link in this circuit might fail catastrophically before the desired result is achieved.
  • The antenna and its feeder cable will have a characteristic impedance, expressed in Ω. The square of the power supply circuit output voltage divided by this impedance gives the maximum that could be expected from the equipment were the RF stage operating at 100% efficiency; given all those resistors, 100% is about as likely as discovering rocking-horse droppings on Mars.
  • etc.

That is why circuits, among many other things in Engineering, undergo detailed design, and are not just bunged together from any old junk just lying around after a few words with one's mates, even if a beer is not involved.

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Re: How to Increase the Power Output of a 300 Watt Broadcast Amplifier?

02/25/2019 1:05 AM

If you apply directional antenna at both sides of amplifier that at is transmit site as well as receiver side then power output of a300 Watt Broadcast amplifier will be increased.

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