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Over size diode problem

10/07/2007 4:24 AM

There are two sensitive auxiliary relay in one portion of DC control circuit (relay no.1 & no.2) separated by one semiconductor diode. Two relays (R1, R2), their two run up contacts (C1, C2) and that mentioned diode bridge (D) is located in "H" form.

When relay no.1 picks up via related N.O. dry contact, the other relay will pick up via the same contact and diode that is directly biased too.

In opposite, the dry contact specified for relay no.2 only picks up one of the two relays because of diode inverse biased activity. In this case diode blocks applied voltage to relay no.2 .

After some time the diode fails due to overheating and it must be replaced by a similar diode. But maintenance man can't find the diode with the same characteristics in market, and he decides to use an over size option. The replaced diode had the same rating of voltage but the current-carrying capability of it was more than the last diode.

It seems all things are okay. But sometimes the circuit can not operate correctly. For example in some condition the auxiliary relay no.1 doesn't drop out after one temporary close-open command.

Indeed when two dry contacts (C1, C2) run up related relay and only the contact C1 return to first position, the relay no.1 doesn't drop out and remains in holding position.

How can you explain the reason of this problem?

REGARDS

MSJ

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Re: Over size diode problem

10/07/2007 6:36 AM

A circuit diagram would help...

Possibly you are getting high voltage spikes generated when the coils are switched. These could be causing breakdown of the diode... so it's voltage rather than current related.

Often relay coils have reverse biased diodes across them to stop the back emf (to provide a current path) when the coil voltage is switched off.

Not sure how helpful/lucid this is... I can always offer some limericks instead?

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10/07/2007 9:10 AM

Hmmmmm most of those 'design riddles' have been asked here on the CR4 forum....

I wondered where they were coming from...

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Re: Over size diode problem

10/07/2007 11:17 PM

oh look it's easier to design a website than to do your homework & it's from a guest. Will wonders never cease?

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Re: Over size diode problem

10/08/2007 9:47 AM

Elementary Watson !!!

Where is the need to use oversize diode and creat a mess of the circuitary. If it has failed due to overheating then get heat dissipation rectified.

We manufacture & market "Heat pipe based heat sinks" which keep the semi-conductors cool and reduce the failures, actually, allowing the device to be loaded more. Contact capriheatpipes@gmail.com.

I am not interested in marketing product through this forum but then it may be of some information to you and you may just get your problem solved.

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Re: Over size diode problem

10/08/2007 11:33 AM

Is the new diode made of the same material as the old one? For example, were they both made or silicon, or Germanium?

Also, did he look up the original diode carefully in a parts manual and get one identical except that it can handle more current?

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Re: Over size diode problem

10/09/2007 3:34 AM

New diode made of same material and the difference is only its rating current.

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