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Soft Skinned Cars

09/17/2019 3:57 AM

I want a Rubbermaid car.

I have seen the commercial where a plastic trash can is crushed by a truck and then springs back to normal shape.

It would be nice to have a car body with a soft dent-proof shell.

Scientists are studying the best ways to move lots of traffic without damaging them in minor collisions. They say herding sheep is an ideal example.

They bump into each other, but no damage is done.

Of course, there would be the requirement for a strong frame and support structure, but the outer body could be made of flexible memory plastic with color incorporated into the plastic.

Lot of cars use plastic bumper covers, and they do a good job of recovering from minor dings, which is a good start.

I would like to see them carry through for the whole body.

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09/17/2019 6:48 AM

You never owned a Saturn?

One of the fist things they did as a demo in the showroom is jump up and down on a door panel.

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09/17/2019 7:51 AM

I'd rather have dents and dings than own a Saturn.

I think there are a number of reasons cars aren't made that way:

  • Safety. Hard rubber is good at what you mentioned (bouncing back to original shape) but at significant speeds it makes things worse. Metal body absorbs some of the energy of the crash. In this case you want there to be some deformation, as that is what takes away some of the kinetic energy and provides some time for the driver to come to a stop (like in a head on collision). If made of rubber, you wouldn't get nearly as much sound, heat, and internal energy of the new system dissipated in the collision as you would with a steel body. The bouncing back would be a bad thing.
  • Cost. Plastics or rubber, to be of the same strength as the same part if it were steel, are generally much heavier. The weight of your car would go up and the gas mileage down. It's cheaper and easier to form whole car body parts with steel. Cost off the lot and to own would increase.
  • Practicality. Steel interfaces better with other metal parts such as hinges, bolts, bushings, etc. Steel body holds up better to harsh temperatures and environments. Plastics and rubbers tend to expand and contract making them more soft and brittle over time.

This isn't meant to dismiss your question though. I think we should be interested in cars that are easier to maintain and repair. Some higher end cars have started to use carbon fiber composites which are light, structurally strong, and durable. It's also getting more affordable.

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09/18/2019 7:18 AM

The biggest reason they stopped using plastic body panels is they could not meet customer expectations for panel gaps because of the higher thermal expansion rate.

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09/17/2019 10:56 AM

Saturn -- that was my first thought when I read the question. However, having seen my late mother-in-law's Saturn after she drove it for a few years I have to question the body's resiliency. Even though she never drove fast she managed to put some impressive dents on all four sides.

Does anyone know what specific material(s) Saturn used for its auto bodies?

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09/17/2019 11:04 AM

"Saturns used Pulse alloy for the door skins, and GTX for the quarter panels. Pulse, sold by Dow Plastics, was a blend of polycarbonate and ABS (PC/ABS). GTX was a blend of polyphenylene oxide and polyamide (PPO/PA) by GE Plastics (now Sabic Innovative Plastics)." - (Source)

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09/17/2019 11:27 AM

Thanks! Interesting that GE made the plastic. I wonder if a Saturn would pass a crash test these days. Anyone who has seen a crumpled car -- where the car absorbed most of the energy from a crash -- wouldn't want to give up that kind of protection.

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09/17/2019 9:12 AM

As you probably recall, cars used to have "bumpers" for that purpose.

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09/17/2019 10:07 AM

Simples. Buy a Trabant. ����‍♂️

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09/17/2019 4:17 PM

Now were talking!

Can it pull a 21 foot boat?

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09/17/2019 7:37 PM

Thanks,but I was looking for one for pulling a bunch of skiers:

Like these:

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09/17/2019 12:33 PM

"Ding-free plastic puts dent in wallet"

"A. Sorry, it ain't gonna happen because producing a car with dent- and ding-resistant plastic, or polymer, is more expensive than producing one with metal body panels.

And polymer body panels are more difficult than metal panels when it comes to fit and finish--such as ensuring the gap at the top of the door opening or deck lid is the same as at the bottom.

Then there's the problem of matching paint color on the polymer panels with that on the metal panels. Saturn roofs, for example, are metal and not polymer.

Great idea, but too costly to adopt. And, yes, cars without bodyside moldings look very clean and uncluttered, but beg for dents and dings that clutter those doors with pock marks."....

https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-2004-02-22-0402220010-story.html

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09/17/2019 3:05 PM

Cost may be the determining factor.

Another problem is how to paint soft rubber parts. They will require painting because no matter how you might try, batch to batch color variations are a reality in all molded parts. (Most, if not all, molded plastic is painted for appearance sake)

Thermal expansion and contraction may be an issue as well as brittleness at sub-zero temperatures.

I don't remember putting any dents in my Vette over 30 years of driving it.

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09/17/2019 3:17 PM

That's because you take good care of your nice things .

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09/18/2019 10:22 AM

An important point that has not been addressed is the "Allowing bumping into each other"

What could possibly go wrong there? I picture a demolition derby segue to brawling

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09/20/2019 10:31 AM

I bumped into a Saturn one day. Thought I had done terrible damage to the bumper only to watch it retake its original shape within seconds. I was amazed and thought I had imagined the whole thing. Thank goodness my insurance agent didn't witness the incident.

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