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Maintenance Free Battery Impedance Value

03/12/2020 8:47 AM

Any one can help to provide information of battery impedance value below OEM recomendation

Our UPS battery "Rocket ESC -150/12 total 64 battery in one bank, we have perform the maintenance every 3 months include of take battery impedance .

I observance some battery impedance value is 3.5 to 3 ohms and compare to OEM recommendation value is 4.8 ohms.

Can any one update me the acceptance value for lower portion of Rocket ESC -150/12 battery.

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Re: maintenance free battery impedance value

03/12/2020 9:46 AM

<...battery impedance value below OEM recommendation...> is hardly a problem. All it is doing is indicating that the battery is healthier at that juncture than the <...OEM...recommendation...>.

The term <...acceptance value...> implies some pass/fail boundary, which will be determined by an organisation-internal or facility-internal directive that the forum is in no position to either observe or challenge. All it is doing is provide guidance as to when the <...Rocket ESC -150/12 battery...> requires replacement under some planned maintenance regime. The driver is economic. The justification is "stay in business".

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Re: Maintenance Free Battery Impedance Value

03/12/2020 10:27 AM

<...Can any one update...>

Yes. The Maintenance Manager at the facility is the next person to speak to.

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Re: Maintenance Free Battery Impedance Value

03/12/2020 4:57 PM

Batteries should be replaced max 10 years, depending on critical nature of the application could be much sooner....How old are the batteries?...also impedance must be in context to temperature which varies with temperature and SOC...

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Re: Maintenance Free Battery Impedance Value

03/24/2020 12:13 PM

As Solar Eagle pointed out, it is relevant whether your measurements are at a cell temperature near to the OEMs specification. Generally, temperatures above the rated value have little effect with a new battery [but life falls a lot at high temperature]. Temperatures below rated usually have a big effect, reduced voltage/increased impedance, especially below 0'C.

All batteries have a tolerance between samples.

It is always much more significant to make tests at regular intervals on each installation, with the same test gear and recorded result & temperature. A downward trend for the same conditions can then be identified, despite any seasonal variations over a year. This is particularly valuable when there are a number of series blocks, a drop at one block will stand out when the total battery effect may not be significant.

So...

  1. how long have you been making "3 month" tests?
  2. Do you have results for each battery [cell/block??] of your 64?
  3. Do you see any rising impedance over time?

A simple and definitive test is to put the UPS load onto battery and look for blocks with fast falling DC voltage compared to others at discharge times less than the rated reserve time. Since series blocks have the same ripple current from the inverter, an AC voltage measurement on each block will show an increase in impedance as an AC voltage increase for a block which is exhausted.

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