Is There Any Way to Kill Coronavirus?

Think of it as self-replicating chemistry, as viruses don't fit the definition of "alive" in a biological sense. The illness is brought about as a result of the body's difficulty in dealing with and getting rid of the unwanted chemistry.

Soap and water! They've been telling us that here since the beginning.

...fire, bleach, decomposition over time with exposure to ultraviolet light...

...small thermonuclear device...

And don't forget alcohol !!

Nine Coronas should about do it.

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<...mask to protect ourselves...>

It is there to protect others from the wearer.

Try wearing it inside out...

Hey,... just because that works for how you wear your underwear... doesn’t mean it can be universally applied.

I don't know where you are but here the problem is not how to kill this virus once it resides outside of a host. Many cleaning products from simple soap and water to aerosol sanitizing fogging systems do a very effective job of killing the virus. The problem is the large number of infected, contagious but asymptomatic hosts spreading new virus spores into previously sanitized spaces for others to acquire.

Coronavirus (SARS Cov2) particles are 100 nm ±40 nm. So if you could produce an acoustic wave of 3,430,000,000 Hz frequency modulated slowly by 40%, perhaps you could get the viruses to explode.

Nice thinking outside the box, but I don’t believe so. I have an example on the same lines that may help explain.

back in the 1990’s, pasteurization was used to eliminate pathogens in orange juice. The orange juice cooperatives, (backed by growers) wanted to stream line this and make it more efficient.

they believed that instead of using a HTST (High Temperature/Short Time) form of pastuerization, to trying high pressure to kill these pathogens and increased the shelf life.

It was a cooperative effort with Flow International, a maker of high pressure waterjet to cut metals and other materials, they had pumps that could deliver 60,000 - 100,000 psi.

the primary test looked promising, the swab tests after the high pressure pastuerations (HPP) showed no traces of the pathogens that show before the tests.

they continued development, what they didn’t realize that did show up later, was even though the high pressure basically crushed these pathogen into ‘bits’ so to speak, it did not kill them completely. In other words, it give them a chance to grow/mutate back to life.

these pathogens that was treated with HPP, later these small ‘bits’ redeveloped in the product,... where after a swab test, tested positive making it HPP ineffective.

but the HPP processe is still out there, on a limited and specific bases.

the point is, good thinking, try using different techniques, what doesn’t work today, may work tomorrow with better development of the equipment and understanding of the virus.

Therapeutic UV is effective,and has been discussed previously in CR4.

There are uv machines that are used to sterilize surgical rooms on the market.

There are LED's that produce the right wavelength,222nm,but they are quite expensive at the present time.Some grow-lights produce UV in this range also.

Personally,I prepare a saturated solution of Epsom Salt,as a mist, to the outside of my mask.

When dry,it forms microscopically sharp crystals that the puncture the cell walls of the virus.

Some say it will not be effective,but what will it hurt?

I do not spray the inside surfaces of the mask,and I wash my hands after handling the mask,as normal.This can be very irritating to the eyes.

I do not recommend this to anyone.You can try this at your own risk if you wish.

On reflection a better frequency would be the resonant frequency of the virus. That would be a much lower frequency, but, I have no idea how to find out what it is.

As an example the resonant frequency of a typical human eye is about 18 Hz (people start to feel odd and report seeing ghosts when subjected to it).

The term is Natural Frequency, also known as Eigenfrequency,

all things have this.

Perhaps, a good example of how to apply this, is when it’s used to break down kidney stones,... kinda... they use ultrasonic waves to locate the stones, but they actually use Extracorporeal Shock Wave Lithotripsy (ESWL) to actually break down the stones...

Lithotripsy parameters seem to have stabilised at frequencies of 60-90 shocks/min, or even less. I doubt this relates to any eigenfrequenz.

I couldn’t really say. I would call myself a layman in that area.

I worked with and applied ultrasonics about 25 years ago that involved cutting varies food stuffs, so I study what I needed to know, and I picked up odds and ends beyond what I needed to know...

and Randall’s post actually shook some cobwebs loose and I could see what Randall was implying... I think. So,... I laid it out there on the table... see what happens... kinda like brain storming,...

so, with that said,... good point. But I reserve the right to neither confirm or deny your point.

The 60 -90 shocks/minute is the repetition rate of an ultrasonic wave at 23-25 kHz.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/medicine-and-dentistry/ultrasonic-lithotripsy

Think of a sonar ping in which acoustic waves are transmitted in pulses, and then the receive hydrophones await the returns.

I don't know anything about ESWL, but I suspect the "stone smashing" is done with short pulses at a low repetition rate (lower duty cycle) to avoid excessive heating of the tissues perhaps?

for the Stone Smashing, I think it has to find the resonance of the stone.

the problem what I see is this would be more difficult, or even if it’s possible with soft tissue... I can’t even comprehend a virus... but still one sometimes have to think out of the box. Cliche’ I know.

thinking about the soft tissue or virus,... yes, it may heat it up to kill it... but that would really needs to be focus to leave the surrounding tissues intact. Just thinking out loud... in print

That would pretty well cover it. Thanks !

Next explanation... now the big question is, is there a way to apply it to a soft tissue/virus...

If the cell structure is such that the impulse response is over-damped, then I don't believe that acoustic waves would do any damage outside of heating without some sort of mechanical resonance that could be excited within the cell. Perhaps targeted heating might be possible by beamforming multiple acoustic sources. The trouble of course is discriminating the targeted cells from the others to reduce collateral damage.

I don’t believe so either,... it would just damage that and the surrounding issue.

to my limited knowledge anyways.

Killing anything with "energy wave" is always a risk. Whether it be sonic, nuclear, visible or invisible light spectrum because the thing you are trying to kill is made of the same stuff you are. In most cases if it kills the "stuff" its none too good for you either. UV light comes to mind. Still, many antibiotics are like this. Granted they do damage but they do more damage to the target than the incidental so its considered "safe" and effective.

Plus, as a value added extra, this virus exists naturally in the wild in other animals so the host population is quite a bit larger than we might initially think.

understood,... there is always risks. Good points.

but to keep direction of the particular direction of this thread as I mention earlier, I’m speaking as a layman... which as I mentioned earlier and discussing this as a brainstorming session... it becomes an asset. Without too far a stretch.

Just keep in mind, there is nothing so far that will eradicate the Corona virus. It’ll mutate to remain a threat.
It’s here to stay, just like the Common flu.

I've heard it's more like the common cold, also a corona virus with many mutations. Humans will eventually adapt to it so that only those with compromised immune systems get severely ill and the rest of us will just be mildly irritated and inconvenienced.

Of course it will take generations for that to happen naturally so bring on the vaccines!

And as we adapt to the strain of virus,..l the virus will also evolve/mutant into another Strain,...

I had posted, that what was learned from COVID 19, is that there is a new procedure in the works from the University of Wisconsin- Madison that was released last fall, they may be on an actual cure, that after just one inoculation, it would fight future mutations of a virus, that looks promising.

To "kill" a virus, you must deactivate or disrupt, the DNA...

The problem is that these lights are new and not widely deployed in public and private spaces yet....So the virus must be destroyed from within, that means a vaccine type of approach is called for...and has in fact been developed, and is being deployed worldwide as we speak...Hopefully we can wipe out covid 19 before it can mutate into a strain that the vaccine is not effective against, thankfully that has not happened yet....Until then follow the guidelines set down by health experts of social distancing, frequent washing of hands, wearing layered masks and other recommendations should be followed...

Assuming you mean to kill the virus inside the body, there are many strategies being worked on. One uses the antibodies from camels/llamas/alpacas.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/05/200501184301.htm

These antibodies are 1/10th the weight of a humans and can enter the virus itself.

Looks promising.

A misapprehension here.

The particular advantage of the alpaca's light antibodies is not in penetrating the virus but in that they can be made up into an aerosol and directed to the nasal passages, which is where the virus first forms a reservoir.

Interesting. You never know which species will provide a useful attribute for people.

I suspect you, phph001, were the victim of an autocorrect program. "Misappropriation" is a better term.

I stand corrected.

Yes and No.

Individual virus can be killed through a plethora of ways.

Eliminating Coronavirus from the face of the earth? No.

Finding a 100% effective antibody is possible theoretically, but so far in all of our history we have not been able to find such a bugger for anything. Even when we get close it just mutates and boom we have to start all over. Smallpox is making a comeback and its the vaccination strain that's mutated in the wild.

Its just really hard for us humans who are so impressed with ourselves and our abilities to have to admit this single cell has us whooped.

GOOD NEWS!

Much like Bears, Viruses aren't much danger to you until you get stupid.

Wait a minute! You say smallpox is coming back! Could you post a link, please. I know there were concerns of its return with permafrost thawing with global warming.

I hope you maybe thinking of polio instead of smallpox. We got oh so close to making polio the second scourge of a disease to be eradicated from the earth when anti-vaxers, religious leaders, war, and a foolish USA espionage project stifled vaccinations. Please tell me you got the wrong disease.

CORRECTION

Red is correct and I misspoke.

It is Polio that is making a come back unfortunately.

Here's another article on the Llama antibodies:

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/07/200713104334.htm

I suppose that what it is doing is preventing the virus to attach, therefore the virus dies of starvation.

Face masks simply reduce the chances of the virus reaching a food source (us).
Social distancing same thing. Keep it from it's food source.

Unfortunately most chemicals that might kill a virus can also do us harm.

Starving the virus seems the best approach for now.

Let's be accurate here.

1. The smallpox vaccine is 100% effective, providing the first and only example of an infectious disease wiped off the face of the earth. That extinction was declared in 1980.

Taken according to CDC guidelines, the inactivated poliovirus vaccine produces better than 99% protection.

2. Smallpox is not making a comeback. There is a theoretical possibility of a reappearance based on the reappearance of smallpox victims buried in Siberian permafrost, if the permafrost melts sufficiently.

I suggest cleaning nostrils thoroughly when back at home. We breathe 24/7 continuously. Use tempered light saline water (then clean the basin)

Interesting to note,... that when we breath, we basically breath through one nostril at a time, and then switches...

Can you kill something that is not alive?

De-activate? Degrade? Neuter? Subvert?

Maybe we could de-program it?

What - like a cast iron bath, for instance?

It's been archived somewhere, but traces can still be found. Not functionally alive, yet it lurks in some dark corner.

Possible covid cure in Israel:

https://www.timesofisrael.com/new-israeli-drug-cured-moderate-to-serious-covid-cases-within-days-hospital/

I've been following this a while after a friend mentioned. If solid info, I don't know why it's not in mainstream news yet. Very odd.

Bit of a tangent, but Spanish Flu got it's name due to reporting. Tailend of WW1, allies wanted to play the pandemic down, but Spain was neutral and not censored. By reporting it first and most, the name got stuck. There is a fair bit of politics involved in Covid-19 reporting, re origins and vaccines. 100 years, OK, no vaccines in 1918, but politics still trumps news and science. Check Portugal for how badly things can spin out of seeming control.

It's a phase 1 trial report, so it's still got to get through phase 2 and phase 3 trials.

It's not a specific treatment for the Covid virus, but a treatment for a complication (the "cytokine storm") for which other treatments are already available.

It is intended only for the serious case, already hospitalised. We need to prevent cases reaching hospital in the first place.

Good clarification. 100% with you on "We need to prevent cases reaching hospital in the first place". Fingers crossed this can get by phase 3 trials. I still get bombarded by adverts from a big name holiday chain, even without them knowing when they can open and zero chance of me visiting for a fair time. Updates on what they are doing would impress me a lot more than a discount offer on some potential future date.