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Building the Pyramids

11/15/2007 1:13 PM

Just found this! Interesting idea about the shafts from the King and Queens chambers! Would anybody be willing to take a stab at rebuffing or praising this train of thought!

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11/15/2007 2:42 PM

Isn't he a clever Dick.

He doesn't present any proof that his particular ideas were used by the Egyptians, but he does show that great things can be with the simplest of technology.

A lot of the pyramid "wonders" seem amazing until someone explains a simple way to do it. Example - the pyramid is perfectly level over its 13 acre base. How could that be done? One simple way is to build a dike around the site and flood it with water, which would be perfectly level. Then drive equal length stakes into the ground until their tops are equal with the water level. Drain and dig to the bottom of the stakes. That's probably not the way it was done, but it's a simple way that it could be done.

Same for this guy.

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11/15/2007 6:57 PM

"- the pyramid [base] is perfectly level over its 13 acre base. How could that be done? One simple way is to build a dike around the site and flood it with water,"

The base is the solid rock of the Gaza Plateau. Cut channels and fill with water. The use stretched strings and simple height gage to hammer the surface to the same level.

All of the construction methods for the pyramids have been discussed in prior thread. You will find the Lever & Fulcrum referred to in more that one of them. Surprised you missed the references.

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11/16/2007 4:24 AM

There's a problem with the whole 'level water and stakes' method though. Yes you would have level water to start with and you could hammer a stake in so that its top was at the surface of the water, but as you hammered in more stakes, the level of the water would rise resulting in subsequent stakes being slightly higher than the previous one(s). The floor would then not be level (well, not perfectly level but near enough for some cowboys these days!).

Could they not have used some sort of balance system a bit like the old fashioned scales we see?

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11/16/2007 9:13 AM

"you could hammer a stake in" Not so easy in solid bed rock of Gaza Plateau. Reread Post #4.

The same setup as creating the flat faces of the blocks of stone used for the bulk of the volume of the pyramids.

The illustration I recall showed two vertical pegs with string connecting, a 'gage' peg or stick which determined when the surface was parallel to the string. Presumably the two vertical pegs were held in place by assistant(s) or other means.

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11/16/2007 10:17 AM

It depends if they checked after all the pegs were set, doing a bit of extra tapping to get it all equal! I'm going to do a search on CR4 now, for levers and fulcrums and moving big rocks! I shall be back gentlemen

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11/16/2007 10:50 AM

" I'm going to do a search on CR4 now, for levers and fulcrums and moving big rocks!"

Forgotten Technology

Look no further it is there.

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11/16/2007 3:11 PM

You simply remove an amount of water equal in volume to a stake for every new stake you add.

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11/16/2007 6:01 PM

I sincerely hope you are taking the piss! LOL

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11/15/2007 3:20 PM

Seems like a lot of effort just to spin a large block half way around, and he didn't even raise the small one going for a ride.

I actuall saw this on the Discovery Channel several months ago.

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11/15/2007 5:43 PM

I thought that these shafts were aimed at specific stars but then I saw this and I pondered the idea for a while! Have a look at this and see if you think it is possible that they could have used this method! Does anybody have any other sites that deal with moving large blocks of rock with simple machines? And any thoughts on this?

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11/16/2007 9:43 AM

In archeology anomalies are removed from the data and ignored because they don't fit. In any other discipline you would be sanctioned for this.

Any data that is not politically correct gets you ostracized by your peers at the loss of accuracy and funding. Mavericks have a very hard time getting funding and acceptance.

The anomalies of the Pyramids is a valid point. What is correct, who knows until they update their peer review system.

History as we know it is wrong. DNA and the mass of anomalies show this. How wrong is the question.

food for thought

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11/16/2007 9:03 AM

One man buildt coral castle

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11/16/2007 11:22 AM

If you would like to read one of the best books on the Pyramids of Egypt and their construction, seek out a copy the "The Riddle of The Pyramids" by Kurt Mendelssohn.

Library, used book stores, etc.

Most of the books written over the year aren't worth the paper they are printed on as they are full of fanciful ideas and theories. The lever & fulcrum of Wally Wallingford is the best offering as to how the blocks were moved into place, bar none.

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11/16/2007 11:55 AM

Thanks Stan, Just been reading a few articles about the pyramids, and to be honest, they are all using variations on levers, slopes, ropes and the like! Who knows, they may have used all of them and everybody is correct up to a point! Do you have any ideas as to what is behind the next door in the shaft?

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11/16/2007 12:47 PM

Truman: Try to get a copy of Kurt's book. Best one of all I have found and read. I think you were referring to the door in one of the small upward slanting shafts to the outside. There was some TV program based on scientific research and a small tractor to crawl up the shaft and see what was to be found. Don't recall that they were able to open that door.

As to aliens building the pyramids, Atlantis, etc. etc. I have all that filed under BS and/or the 'Unknown, Unexplained. & To Be Determined.' Like the old mountain man "I don putt no stock in them their alee-uns."

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11/16/2007 1:45 PM

Stan, I saw the program where they drilled a pilot hole through the door with the handles! They poked a small camera through the hole and found another wall or door in front! What do they expect to find! The next hole they drill will most likely breakout on the surface!

I remember seeing a stone statue on some documentry program that was shaped like a man sitting in a chair with a hole load of control knobs and a display of some kind! Many people have said that this must be either a pilot in a spaceship or some form of advanced travel! Now I can't remember if this was in Egypt or what but it does make you think! Most of the UFO/Alien stuff I just can't get on with, As you say, filed under BS but this chair has scratched the back of my head for a while now, so any input on that may help me file it away! I shall try and find a picture for you! And look for the book too!

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11/16/2007 2:05 PM

A friend of mine postulated a theory that it was colder during the winters then and ice roads could have been used to move many large stones quickly.

I remember that the granite was not local.

Rollers would turn vast quantities of wood into sawdust, the cobble road theory would leave cobbles that looked like the ice age had visited on one side. An Ice road to slide stones on is as good as any. The only trick would be once moving don't stop or it will freeze to the ice.

The local carbon dating of quarry tools suggests a more modern origin, the alignments suggest otherwise. I like the older date but cannot find enough data after digging through all the BS to confirm one over the other.

For all I know they are the ones who left all the cart tracks on the bottom of the Mediterranean. The tobacco and coca found in mummies suggests contact with the Americas.

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11/16/2007 2:33 PM

Mr. Truman Brain: I guess that the drilling of the hole was the last I recall of the program.

The brass calculator found in the waters of the Mediterranean is the hardest to explain in rational terms of all of the enigmatic finds from antiquity.

U V: "A friend of mine postulated a theory that it was colder during the winters then and ice roads could have been used to move many large stones quickly."

Not likely. Egypt has been tropical or nearly so throughout it's history. The stones for bulk of the Pyramids was floated down the Nile River during the time of year when it was at high water and the peasants were available as bargemen.

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