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Optically clear ceramic for sealing mirror-finish substrate

11/26/2007 11:27 PM

Is there a method to apply optically very clear ceramic that can be layed as a thin film over a mirror-finish metal substrate to form a mirror from the bottom up? I would like to create mirrors that are irregular in shape, and can imagine doing this by applying silver or aluminium film to a metal substrate and then firing a ceramic onto the top. The ceramic seal would need to be UV stable and to protect the mirror from oxidation, moisture, abrasion etc. Is this feasible? Can anyone suggest suppliers? Thanks.

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Re: Optically clear ceramic for sealing mirror-finish substrate

11/27/2007 4:11 PM

Sorry but looked and even with in depth searching I can only find this !

It looks you are trying something you need to patent when you figure out how to do it Sandyc!

Good luck.

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Re: Optically clear ceramic for sealing mirror-finish substrate

11/27/2007 5:45 PM

Hi Case491,

thanks for that link - I had not found that one - looks good - I will get in touch with them and see what they have to offer.

I realise my quest is a difficult one - fingers crossed we can find a cheap solution,

Sandy

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Re: Optically clear ceramic for sealing mirror-finish substrate

11/28/2007 12:55 AM

P&T can do this In Redding CA www.ptfrpcustoms.com or 530 2217335 talk to Phil

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Re: Optically clear ceramic for sealing mirror-finish substrate

11/28/2007 3:16 AM

Hi,

look at spie.org and search for the conference proceedings on sol-gel-optics.

I suspect that shrincage at curing will distort everything.

If you think about producing replicas then go to the people that make the radar to infrared to x-ray mirrors replicated from ultraprecision machined parts.

In the US Itek should know, Lawrence Livermore provided the technology, in France ask Reosc, in Germany the Zeiss people know this.

Replica optics is also found in SPIE large database of proceedings and articles, OSA will have some too.

RHABE

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Re: Optically clear ceramic for sealing mirror-finish substrate

11/28/2007 6:09 AM

I would guess that once you have your ceramic "glass", you would then need to coat the silver back ground as I do not see it coming through any other ceramic process with such high temperatures that are usually needed....

This will also allow the surfaces of the glass to be polished first, which I would guess would also be needed after firing was done.....

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11/28/2007 6:46 AM
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Re: Optically clear ceramic for sealing mirror-finish substrate

11/28/2007 7:58 AM

Do a google search under "mirror coatings". You will find companies such as Spectrum Coatings in Deltona FL. They can supply a variety of oxide coatings including SiO2 (Quartz). There are also a variety of organic coatings that will be lower cost, but not as durable.

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