Previous in Forum: Direct Image of an Exoplanet   Next in Forum: Mysterious Object
Close
Close
Close
21 comments
Guru

Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 42259
Good Answers: 1659

Is this New Science?

08/01/2021 11:13 PM
Login to Reply
This discussion was "closed" on 08/03/2021 9:17 AM. No new comments are allowed.
Message from admins:
Please refrain from personal attacks and political commentary.--Admin.

Comments rated to be Good Answers:

These comments received enough positive ratings to make them "good answers".

Comments rated to be "almost" Good Answers:

Check out these comments that don't yet have enough votes to be "official" good answers and, if you agree with them, rate them!
Guru

Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: at the beach in Florida
Posts: 29823
Good Answers: 1665
#1

Re: Is This New Science?

08/01/2021 11:47 PM

..."Shiv Priyam Raghuraman, a graduate student in atmospheric and oceanic sciences "...

Haha...some authority...

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=global+warming+hoax

__________________
Break a sweat everyday doing something you enjoy
Login to Reply Off Topic (Score 3)
Guru

Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: at the beach in Florida
Posts: 29823
Good Answers: 1665
#2
In reply to #1

Re: Is This New Science?

08/02/2021 3:13 AM

__________________
Break a sweat everyday doing something you enjoy
Login to Reply Score 1 for Off Topic
Guru
Technical Fields - Technical Writing - New Member Engineering Fields - Piping Design Engineering - New Member

Join Date: May 2009
Location: Richland, WA, USA
Posts: 20860
Good Answers: 774
#4
In reply to #2

Re: Is This New Science?

08/02/2021 3:34 AM

This was interesting until I heard numbers like US$6.00 to 20.00 per kWh. This guy has his units mixed up.

__________________
In vino veritas; in cervisia carmen; in aqua E. coli.
Login to Reply
Guru

Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: at the beach in Florida
Posts: 29823
Good Answers: 1665
#12
In reply to #4

Re: Is This New Science?

08/02/2021 4:00 PM

This guy is pretty much wrong about everything....

__________________
Break a sweat everyday doing something you enjoy
Login to Reply
Guru
Engineering Fields - Aerospace Engineering - Retired South Africa - Member - The Rainbow-nation Engineering Fields - Engineering Physics - Relativity & Cosmology Popular Science - Cosmology - The Big Picture!

Join Date: May 2006
Location: 34.02S, 22.82E
Posts: 3802
Good Answers: 67
#3
In reply to #1

Re: Is This New Science?

08/02/2021 3:14 AM

But he/they simply found what we all believe is the case. The imbalance is not natural!

Anyone here disagrees?

__________________
"Perplexity is the beginning of knowledge." -- Kahlil Gibran
Login to Reply
Guru
Engineering Fields - Electrical Engineering - Been there, done that. Engineering Fields - Control Engineering - New Member

Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Long Island NY
Posts: 14850
Good Answers: 913
#6
In reply to #3

Re: Is This New Science?

08/02/2021 7:11 AM

Jorrie, I wished we all agreed on this. Clearly, SE refuses to consider any data or observations that disagree with his preconceived idea on the climate.

__________________
"Don't disturb my circles." translation of Archimedes last words
Login to Reply
Guru
Hobbies - CNC - New Member Hobbies - DIY Welding - New Member Engineering Fields - Electromechanical Engineering - New Member

Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 22207
Good Answers: 402
#7
In reply to #6

Re: Is This New Science?

08/02/2021 10:05 AM

No, climate change has it valid points. What polluted climate change was when it got political, and what made it worse was career politicians acted as self-appointed spokesmen where the media bought in it were making money off it, with questionable predictions, and by questionable, I mean false predictions.

But paint it anyway you want, because that’s what you do.

__________________
“ When people get what they want, they are often surprised when they get what they deserve " - James Wood
Login to Reply
Guru
Engineering Fields - Electrical Engineering - Been there, done that. Engineering Fields - Control Engineering - New Member

Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Long Island NY
Posts: 14850
Good Answers: 913
#10
In reply to #7

Re: Is This New Science?

08/02/2021 3:14 PM

Well at least you're now accepting that global warming does exist.

I've long felt that Al inadvertently did a great disservice to the science, particularly by making those two movies. His polarizing politics will always get in the way. At the same time, I seriously doubt any movies on global warming would have been made unless a celebrity used their spotlight.

__________________
"Don't disturb my circles." translation of Archimedes last words
Login to Reply
Guru

Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: at the beach in Florida
Posts: 29823
Good Answers: 1665
#15
In reply to #10

Re: Is This New Science?

08/02/2021 4:26 PM

Why do you still cling to these lies?

I've been living on the beach for 70 years, no change in water levels...no change in weather patterns....no change in climate....stop trying to gaslight people, you can't predict the future....

__________________
Break a sweat everyday doing something you enjoy
Login to Reply
Guru
Hobbies - CNC - New Member Hobbies - DIY Welding - New Member Engineering Fields - Electromechanical Engineering - New Member

Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 22207
Good Answers: 402
#17
In reply to #10

Re: Is This New Science?

08/02/2021 7:44 PM

What are you talking about, ‘atleast I’m accepting global warming’.

my qualms were always the people who preached ‘do what I say, and not as I do’ and tried to shove it down ones throat while cashing in and making a fortune.

As far as global warming, consensus is not science. Take away the cash from the players of global warming… and see what you have.

as far as Al Gore, well at least you’re now accepting that he’s all BS.

Hows that feel?

__________________
“ When people get what they want, they are often surprised when they get what they deserve " - James Wood
Login to Reply
Guru

Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: at the beach in Florida
Posts: 29823
Good Answers: 1665
#9
In reply to #3

Re: Is This New Science?

08/02/2021 2:37 PM

It's not necessarily that I disagree with the facts here, it's the prognostications that I find overstated....the climate has been warming since the last ice age, sure it's changing, it's in a constant state of flux, but the change is so gradual that if nobody said anything, I don't think it would even be noticed...I find the war on CO2 to be silly and misguided, and the sprint to some romantic fantasy of clean energy to be a hoax...The constant characterization of mankind as being unnatural in a natural world and evil and destructive to the Earth is the definition of misanthropy, a sickness of the mind being preached 24/7 by the media...what is evil is this characterization and the lies being told based on half truths, greed and political agenda's...so much wasted energy ...Carbon dioxide is not the enemy, those that would poison the minds of our children, and steal the freedom's we depend on, are...

__________________
Break a sweat everyday doing something you enjoy
Login to Reply Score 1 for Good Answer
2
Guru
Engineering Fields - Electrical Engineering - Been there, done that. Engineering Fields - Control Engineering - New Member

Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Long Island NY
Posts: 14850
Good Answers: 913
#11
In reply to #9

Re: Is This New Science?

08/02/2021 3:41 PM

First, you make the logical fallacy of an Ad Hominem attack against the author of the paper, a Ph.D. candidate in the relevant field.

Now, you change to the logical fallacy of a strawman attack of unspecified predictions. No predictions exist in the paper, only measurements of energy entering and leaving the Earth and statistical analysis for correlations and identifying the likely root cause of these changes.

By your own admission, you refuse to accept the idea that humanity is the cause of global warming.

__________________
"Don't disturb my circles." translation of Archimedes last words
Login to Reply Good Answer (Score 2)
Guru

Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: at the beach in Florida
Posts: 29823
Good Answers: 1665
#14
In reply to #11

Re: Is This New Science?

08/02/2021 4:12 PM
__________________
Break a sweat everyday doing something you enjoy
Login to Reply
Guru
Hobbies - CNC - New Member Hobbies - DIY Welding - New Member Engineering Fields - Electromechanical Engineering - New Member

Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 22207
Good Answers: 402
#18
In reply to #14

Re: Is This New Science?

08/02/2021 7:49 PM

By your reasoning it could be the termites that are responsible

Cow farts… if you live on the west coast. But they did find a new tax revenue…

__________________
“ When people get what they want, they are often surprised when they get what they deserve " - James Wood
Login to Reply
Guru
Engineering Fields - Electrical Engineering - Been there, done that. Engineering Fields - Control Engineering - New Member

Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Long Island NY
Posts: 14850
Good Answers: 913
#19
In reply to #14

Re: Is This New Science?

08/02/2021 9:00 PM

Now you've switched to a non sequitur logical fallacy.

You just refuse to acknowledge anything about the initial scientific paper.

__________________
"Don't disturb my circles." translation of Archimedes last words
Login to Reply Score 1 for Good Answer
Guru
Popular Science - Cosmology - Let's keep knowledge expanding Engineering Fields - Retired Engineers / Mentors -

Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: North America, Earth
Posts: 4313
Good Answers: 104
#20
In reply to #3

Re: Is This New Science?

08/02/2021 11:11 PM

Nothing that comes from NBC or Lyn is science. It is all propaganda.

__________________
“I would rather have questions that can't be answered than answers that can't be questioned.” - Richard Feynman
Login to Reply
Guru
Engineering Fields - Electrical Engineering - Been there, done that. Engineering Fields - Control Engineering - New Member

Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Long Island NY
Posts: 14850
Good Answers: 913
#5
In reply to #1

Re: Is This New Science?

08/02/2021 7:06 AM

So what Scientific papers have you submitted to peers for publication?

On that note, what is your graduate study program?

__________________
"Don't disturb my circles." translation of Archimedes last words
Login to Reply Off Topic (Score 5)
Guru

Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 42259
Good Answers: 1659
#8
In reply to #1

Re: Is This New Science?

08/02/2021 12:59 PM

You have been brainwashed, by trump and friends. Remember, HE LOST!

And so are you!

Login to Reply Off Topic (Score 3)
Guru

Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: at the beach in Florida
Posts: 29823
Good Answers: 1665
#16
In reply to #8

Re: Is This New Science?

08/02/2021 4:42 PM

Your hero's...

Communist's, Socialist's, and the Wicked Witch of the West....

Your homepage...

https://www.dsausa.org/

__________________
Break a sweat everyday doing something you enjoy
Login to Reply
Guru
Hobbies - CNC - New Member Hobbies - DIY Welding - New Member Engineering Fields - Electromechanical Engineering - New Member

Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 22207
Good Answers: 402
#21
In reply to #8

Re: Is This New Science?

08/03/2021 8:52 AM

Nobody’s listening to you, but Myself.

Are you panicking, crying and stomping your feet, you know, (your temper tandrums productions) because this administration doesn’t have a vaccine to fight the new strain of the Delta Virus on your doorstep by now… like you did with COVID last summer?

__________________
“ When people get what they want, they are often surprised when they get what they deserve " - James Wood
Login to Reply Off Topic (Score 5)
Power-User

Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 336
Good Answers: 18
#13

Re: Is this New Science?

08/02/2021 4:09 PM

I personally would NOT call this science. I would call it agenda-driven false equivalencies from which misguided conclusions have been drawn at best, and conspiratorial misinformation at worst.

To begin with, 20 years is a pathetically short period of time in Earth History from which ANY reasonable conclusions could be expected to be drawn!

"HERE" is how the Earth works - When CO2 builds up in the atmosphere the more the earth greens up, and the more photosynthesis that takes place the more Co2 is extracted from and the more O2 and Water Vapor are released and the more clouds form that are available to reflect more direct sunlight away from being absorbed by any specific part of the Earth or the Atmosphere. There is NO scientifically verifiable mechanism that makes the Atmosphere incapable of releasing the heat back into space wherever the Sun isn't shining at the time. Greenhouses have solid corporeal (physical) walls that are the PRIMARY force retaining the heat! The Atmosphere does not have those walls, and any specific type of gas floating around in the Atmosphere is JUST as prone to turn loose of any extra EM radiation as any other, and that radiation is more likely to flow outward toward the night sky facing away from the sun where Entropy dictates that it will flow. The inclusion of Co2 and Water Vapor by the Green crowd as being "greenhouse gasses" is lunacy! If it weren't for the Clouds formed by Water Vapor the Heat wouldn't be reflected back into space as efficiently as it is, and THEN they might have a point. But, they don't!

NOW! It is also clear that they have NOT factored into their conclusions from whatever fluctuations that they may have recorded over the last 20 years all the heat rising from the Earth's core as there IS more volcanic activity than has ever been recorded before and the particulate matter that they inject directly into the Atmosphere. "IF" they are intellectually honest they would be able to see and ingest the evidence which proves that it is MUCH MORE likely that the Earth itself releases exponentially so much more heat and particulate matter (Which IS capable of retaining heat from whatever source) than do humans into the Atmosphere, AND that has been going ever since the Earth has had an Atmosphere!

It is MUCH MORE likely that "IF" there is any significant rise in the Earth's temperature it is SO NOT the fault of man! I am NOT saying that we shouldn't reduce pollution wherever we can! All I ask is that the Government DOESN'T start charging me taxes for breathing out CO2 because all that politicians are going to do with the money is put it in their own pockets! The Paris Accord will ACCOMPLISH NOTHING as far as saving the Earth! The Earth has had higher temperatures in the past and most of America was covered by 1 to 5 miles of Ice at one time in history, and we have had both floods and droughts and we now have a fairly temperate climate! HOW? How did the world ever recover from the extreme highs or the lows? Climate is nothing BUT change with or without humans!

Please check out this Quora answer to the Question: Volcanoes release about the same amount of CO2 every year as humans do, so why, after millions of years of volcanic eruptions, do we still have fresh air? Shouldn't our atmosphere be like Venus's?

https://www.quora.com/Volcanoes-release-about-the-same-amount-of-CO2-every-year-as-humans-do-so-why-after-millions-of-years-of-volcanic-eruptions-do-we-still-have-fresh-air-Shouldnt-our-atmosphere-be-like-Venuss

That explains it much better than I ever could and I want to give credit where credit is due!

__________________
If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you!
Login to Reply Score 1 for Good Answer
Login to Reply 21 comments
This discussion was "closed" on 08/03/2021 9:17 AM. No new comments are allowed.
Message from admins:
Please refrain from personal attacks and political commentary.--Admin.

Comments rated to be Good Answers:

These comments received enough positive ratings to make them "good answers".

Comments rated to be "almost" Good Answers:

Check out these comments that don't yet have enough votes to be "official" good answers and, if you agree with them, rate them!
Copy to Clipboard

Users who posted comments:

Jorrie (1); lyn (1); phoenix911 (4); redfred (5); SolarEagle (7); StandardsGuy (1); SWB123 (1); Tornado (1)

Previous in Forum: Direct Image of an Exoplanet   Next in Forum: Mysterious Object

Advertisement