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03/01/2022 7:13 AM

I'm sure some of you have seen these: Something ain't right. Won't the magnets be depleted? Otherwise, it's violating the law of conservation of energy.

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03/01/2022 7:18 AM

<...Something ain't right....>

One could always copy a couple, and investigate, perhaps?

One might also wonder why none of these has ever been commercialised...

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03/02/2022 7:14 AM

Seems to be a perfect use for the bed magnets and copper bracelets that were all the rage in the 90's

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03/01/2022 2:59 PM

There's usually a battery hidden in there somewhere...

Here's one I like.

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03/01/2022 3:38 PM

I don't think there's a hidden battery. There's too many of them. How does the light keep burning? I don't think it will light forever. What is the force that will be depleted?

Someone explain this to me before I try to build one myself. I said "try".

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03/01/2022 5:22 PM

I would need a link to know the details, but my questions are:

How long does the light burn, and how do you know that?

How much power does the light consume? (LEDs are quite efficient)

Is there space where a small lithium battery can be concealed?

Is it possible there is a wireless charging or induction circuit?

I believe trickery is far more likely than free energy.

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03/01/2022 6:29 PM

I guess I'm going to have to build one to see if it works. That's gonna take a while, but I'll get it done. I'd automatically consider it a fake it there weren't so many on Utube. The joke would of run out by now.

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03/02/2022 10:46 AM

Don't you think if it worked they would be selling them?... I'll answer for you, they can't, because it would be fraud, they can only get clicks on their sites and make money that way....

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03/03/2022 11:20 AM

Free Electricity....

Even "free electricity" requires a sizable investment...

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03/07/2022 7:02 AM

The joke would of have run out by now.

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03/07/2022 7:13 AM

That's why I posted the question. Just like news stories, if it's posted a lot, there may be some truth to it. Especially, if from different sources.

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03/07/2022 8:04 AM

"The joke would've run out by now."

The joke never runs out whilst people like you and I keep watching his videos: in fact he's laughing all the way to the bank.

This is claimed to be a 220V light bulb: don't you think it would be a bit dangerous if it was real.

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03/01/2022 3:04 PM

Won't happen until we discover the anti-parallel universe which will be hard to do since it always blows up.

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03/01/2022 7:52 PM

Magnets and copper coils. Who knew? My professor was asked why the magnets that separate iron ore from the mullock at the end of a conveyor belt keep on working. His answer was that magnetism is nuclear energy. Generators with fixed magnets also work for a long time. As do DC motors etc. So, yes, the magnets are depleted just such a very small amount that it is barely noticeable.

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03/01/2022 8:00 PM

Is it feasible (economical) to make one of these that produces enough current to be useable?

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03/01/2022 8:59 PM

So, you're asking if the "free electricity" machine really works and we only buy and burn oil because we want to?

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03/01/2022 8:59 PM

A permanent magnet has potential energy stored in it when it was magnetized. Part of this energy is converted to kinetic energy when you pick up a piece of iron. Removing the iron from the magnet requires work, which restores the magnet's field energy.

The magnet has only a fixed amount of energy, just as a charged capacitor or a wound-up spring has a fixed amount of energy. There is no "source" of energy from the magnet other than what was stored when it was magnetized.

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03/02/2022 12:14 AM

GA. Correct.

In at least one of those photos I see a magnet and a coil. if there is relative motion between the magnet and coil, the coil will generate a voltage. LEDs react very rapidly. so perhaps an ultrasonic sound source could be vibrating the coil and/or magnet.

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03/02/2022 7:47 AM

Very possible,especially if their is a lot of ambient noise around also.

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03/01/2022 9:50 PM

https://blog.1000bulbs.com/home/fool-your-friends-with-this-light-bulb-magic-trick

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03/01/2022 10:34 PM

Back in the 1970's there was an oscillator circuit,using capacitors and inductors and a blinking neon lamp that had been running for over 50 years with no external power input.I don't know if it is still running or not.I think it was in the Smithsonian on display back then .Maybe it finally went dark. That would be over 100 years now---dang! Time flies! Can't seem to find it on line.Maybe Solar Eagle can find it? He is the Guru of Google searches.

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03/01/2022 10:45 PM

I wonder what the effect would be using magnetized casimir plates? Could the magnets harness some energy from the vacuum energy(ZPE)? I don't know anything about this,just thinking...

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03/02/2022 1:41 PM

Casimir force is very difficult to even detect and is no more a source of power than two magnets attracting each other.

There is such a thing as energy harvesting, capturing energy that would otherwise be lost as heat. In inaccessible locations, low-power electronics can be powered by small amounts of harvested energy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_harvesting

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03/02/2022 4:18 PM

Has anyone tried it?

If you move a conductor between two magnets,you generate a voltage.If the conductor also moves through the Casimir zone while also in a magnetic field,who knows?It may be just as you say,difficult,useless,expensive..but that never stopped the government from buying anything.

Has anyone tried? If not,who knows?

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03/03/2022 11:40 AM

The problem I see about this free energy is, Where do you hide the batteries?

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03/04/2022 8:40 PM

Ironically, "free electricity" is much more costly per kilowatt from primary batteries than from the wall socket, especially from tiny batteries that are easier to hide.

From Battery University:

https://batteryuniversity.com/article/bu-1006-cost-of-mobile-and-renewable-power

AAA CELLAA CELLC CELLD CELL9 VOLT

Capacity (alkaline)

1,150mAh2,850mAh7,800mAh17,000mAh570mAh

Energy (single cell)

1.725Wh4.275Wh11.7Wh25.5Wh5.13Wh

Cost per cell (US$)

$1.00$0.75$2.00$2.00$3.00

Cost per kWh (US$)

$580$175$170$78$585

Table 2: Capacity and cost comparison of primary alkaline cells
One-time use makes energy stored in primary batteries expensive; cost decreases with larger battery size.

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03/04/2022 11:00 PM

Great Information. Thanks! That makes the cost of rechargables much more palatable!

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03/08/2022 1:24 PM

That's easy, it's in the bulb.

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03/08/2022 2:44 PM

Or Uncle Fester….

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04/28/2022 7:21 AM

ElectroBOOM has it: https://youtu.be/15V0gUXUPko

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04/28/2022 7:37 AM

PT Barnum had it right:"Nobody has ever gone broke by overestimating the stupidity of the American Public." "Let me sell you a pet rock.If it gets sick or dies,I can refer you to a rock doctor,and if it dies,we can arrange a funeral for it,with a flock of professional mourners."

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04/28/2022 7:54 AM

N.Tesla was working on a free energy system before he died.He lost funding when Morse stole his ideas for radio and made the first transoceanic transmission.

Morse's patent was later revoked and awarded to N. Tesla,but too late,both were dead.

Perhaps N Tesla he was trying to harness the energy in the ionosphere.His towers were destroyed and sold for scrap,and most of his papers and notes were taken by the Government.

His method would not violate any basic physics laws,because he would be capturing energy that came form the sun,interacting with Earth's magnetic field.

Imagine magnetic field lines being broken at 1000 MPH,the approximate speed of the Earth's rotation?

Imagine a coil of wire running from north to south around the entire earth?(the primary of a transformer) and another receiving coil on Earth,(the secondary)?

Now substitute towers with coils,appropriately spaced instead of wire wrapping the Earth.

No one knows exactly what he was working on,so I am merely speculating here,but he was studying the frequency of the Earth's magnetic field lines.

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04/28/2022 10:59 AM

For as long as I can remember, I've been under the impression that the Earth's magnetic field was very steady DC, caused by circulating liquid metals in the core of the Earth. Magnetic compasses have been functioning reliably for many centuries, so there is clearly a DC component to the field. Is there an AC component that I've never known about? Unless there is an AC component, there is no frequency.

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04/28/2022 11:46 AM

You are correct,but I think he was more interested in how the Earth's magnetic field was breaking the magnetic field lines from the sun.

(The Earth's magnetic field does move,although Very Slowly,too slowly to be practical.)

The space shuttle deployed a 25 mile long tether and the amount of current developed destroyed the tether.It also slowed the shuttle by a small amount,reducing it's orbit.Some satellites now use a tether to control orbit,by putting voltage into it to increase speed/orbit,and removing energy to decrease.

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04/28/2022 6:43 PM

Can you create a magnetic field by spinning mercury?

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04/28/2022 8:09 PM

..."At room temperature, the element mercury is not very magnetic at all. It has a very small, negative magnetic susceptibility, meaning that when you put mercury in a magnetic field, it magnetizes just a little tiny bit in the opposite direction. We say that mercury is a weakly diamagnetic substance at room temperature"...

https://van.physics.illinois.edu/qa/listing.php?id=388&t=magnetism-of-mercury

So no....However you can spin mercury with a magnetic field...

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04/28/2022 11:11 AM

Tesla’s free energy was Funded by JP Morgan, he lost his funding when Morgan asked Tesla how he was going to meter and charge for this energy… Tesla said he wasn’t, it’s ‘free’. The funding stopped immediately, and Morgan had his tower dismantled.

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04/28/2022 5:16 PM

You could harness your energy from solar cells and use that energy to charge your battery for the lightbulb, then you could say your lightbulb was powered by free energy...

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