EV's Not so Green

"What percentage of cars produced are electric?

Less than 1% of the 250 million cars, SUVs and light-duty trucks on the road in the United States are electric."Feb 7, 2022 ...

"only about 17 million new cars are sold each year."... Even if only electric cars were sold from this point forward, it would take 15 years to replace all the ice cars on the road by number....that would be 2036...

If it was 50% EV's being sold it would take twice as long 2052....but at less than 1%, which is what it is today, well you can see it's a lofty goal that over time would probably morph into something totally different, nothing that takes that long will emerge as the original concept...besides we all know(wink wink) that we will all be flying around with our own personal aero motor craft by then...

https://graphics.reuters.com/AUTOS-ELECTRIC/USA/mopanyqxwva/

That is near impossible or at least a challenge… there isn’t enough rare metals available being produced to build cars for it to be 50% electric. At least at this time…

but who knows,… we may have a presidential mandate to this…and we’ll all be riding bicycles around… or maybe old cement mixers… to get where we want to go…

...and history repeats....again

..."The basic idea of the Naturmobil takes the horse-drawn carriage and turns it inside out: instead of walking in front of the vehicle and pulling it, the horse is inside, walking on a treadmill. The horse’s movement moves the vehicle forward and charges its batteries for when the horse needs a break.

The Naturmobil’s inventor says that it is the ultimate nature-friendly vehicle. While putting a horse inside a glass container and making it walk on a treadmill may not seem great for the horse, the inventor also insists that the invention is entirely safe for the animal. It’s kept out of the elements, doesn’t have to pull the heavy cart, and can take a rest when it’s tired of walking.

The unconventional vehicle’s top speed is around 50 MPH, though it’s designed to roll along at about 12 MPH. It’s meant only for use on paved roads and only has room for the driver, one passenger and the horse. "...

A horse driving a vehicle by walking on an integral treadmill is nothing new. In 1829 the South Carolina Canal and Railroad Company launched a competition to design such a vehicle. The prize was won by the Flying Dutchman which went into service for a few months before being replaced by a steam locomotive. A replica of the Flying Dutchman is housed in the Smithsonian Museum. A more famous example is the Cycloped which competed in the Rainhill Trials to decide which locomotive should be awarded the contract to pull trains on the Liverpool to Manchester railway, the world's first passenger railway service. The winner of that competition was George Stephenson's Rocket.

Elephant truck...

That 1% has been subsidized by the taxpayers. If they want everyone to have an electric car, I can't see that continuing. The only way I can see the government can keep its thumb on the scales is to heavily tax internal combustion cars, making them more expensive than electrics.

That sounds more like a plan to disabled free enterprise and have everyone work for or be more accurately be dependent upon the government.

something AP drama queens would like,

Bold statement about the rivers if alluding to UK.

If one digs deeply enough into the cesspool of conservative Luddite propaganda, even the meager of brain can support any positition they may choose to embrace.

Cheers!

Some conservative must have really spanked you hard… but spanked the wrong end by mistake…. or not.

The problem is that <...the air...> contains rather more carbon dioxide than it did <...in 1970...>, a fact provocatively ignored by the quotation and the commentary.

Still, there's nothing better than "business as usual", eh?

The electric power for your clean energy car is generated by dirty fossil fuel power plants...If you want clean energy, GO NUCLEAR !

...or SOLAR!

Or WIND!

Actually, all energy is <...NUCLEAR...>. Everything else is just a kaleidoscope of storage and distribution systems.

Yeah, not so fast....literally...

I didn't write this, I got this through me feed...

It was written by;

Douglas Diggle, MBA ����

3rd degree connection3rd Executive Leadership for dozens of Fortune 500's | Air-Sea-Port Innovation, Cruise Ships & Travel Technology

To say an EV is a zero-emission vehicle is not at all valid. Batteries, they do not make electricity, they store electricity produced elsewhere, primarily by coal, uranium, natural gas-powered plants, or diesel-fueled generators. Forty percent of the electricity generated in the U.S. is from coal-fired plants, it follows that forty percent of the EVs on the road are coal-powered.

For those of you excited about electric cars and a green revolution, I want you to take a closer look at batteries and also windmills and solar panels. A typical EV battery weighs one thousand pounds, about the size of a travel trunk. It contains twenty-five pounds of lithium, sixty pounds of nickel, 44 pounds of manganese, 30 pounds cobalt, 200 pounds of copper, and 400 pounds of aluminum, steel, and plastic. Inside are over 6,000 individual lithium-ion cells.

To manufacture each EV auto battery, you must process 25,000 pounds of brine for the lithium, 30,000 pounds of ore for the cobalt, 5,000 pounds of ore for the nickel, and 25,000 pounds of ore for copper. All told, you dig up 500,000 pounds of the earth's crust for one battery.

The main problem with solar arrays is the chemicals needed to process silicate into the silicon used in the panels. To make pure enough silicon requires processing it with hydrochloric acid, sulfuric acid, nitric acid, hydrogen fluoride, trichloroethane, and acetone. In addition, they also need gallium, arsenide, copper-indium-gallium- diselenide, and cadmium-telluride, which also are highly toxic. Silicon dust is a hazard to the workers, and the panels cannot be recycled.

Windmills are the ultimate in embedded costs and environmental destruction. Each weighs 1688 tons (the equivalent of 23 houses) and contains 1300 tons of concrete, 295 tons of steel, 48 tons of iron, 24 tons of fiberglass, and the hard to extract rare earths neodymium, praseodymium, and dysprosium. Each blade weighs 81,000 pounds and will last 15 to 20 years, at which time it must be replaced. We cannot recycle used blades.

There may be a place for these technologies, but you must look beyond the myth of zero emissions. "Going Green" may sound like the Utopian ideal but when you look at the hidden and embedded costs realistically with an open mind, you can see that Going Green is more destructive to the Earth's environment than meets the eye, for sure. I'm not opposed to mining, electric vehicles, wind or solar. But showing the reality of the situation. #environment #environmental #travel #solar #electricvehicles #cars #cruiseindustry #wearecruise #electricity #batteries #aviation #travelindustry

The greenies ignore those facts....among others

That's the problem that I mentioned before quite recently and often... they look at situations through a pin hole... because 'the big picture' is ugly.

Well, in the U.S. they’ll need to redo how they are going to generate revenue for road repair et al… if the revenue no longer have enough collected from the gas tax.

That's already being resolved. As all EV's will be "connected", the Fed's will mandate that the manufacturers' record mileage in the automobile's software, probably on a monthly basis, forward it to the gov't and, either from the car of from the gov't, do electronic billing. Although the details are still being worked out it will presumably include an autopay option to dip into the "owner's" bank account or designated credit card.

Technology is your friend!! Can't put anything over on these geniuses.

Interesting thanks,

or have a meter on all charging stations whether it’s home or on the road… and you have to pay with a CC or debit, just like at the gas pumps.

Oh, don't worry, they'll likely tax both mileage and electric meter. EV's also record charging rates and periods.

Let my mind go blank and let the government take care of it… got it.

And now that I’m doing that… I have an urge to move to New York or California… on my electric uni-cycle…

I think we're moving in the evolutionary path of H.G. Wells' Time Machine Eloi. When the sirens sound all our minds go blank. No uni-cycles necessary, electric or otherwise.

Quit digging in the conservative cesspool of propaganda and look at some real numbers. Misinformation is derailing renewable energy projects across the United States.

This place is in the dump.

Tell it to the Germans...

..." Germans now pay almost three times more per kilowatt hour of electricity than Americans. "....

The cost of energy is the boiler plate for the economy, any economy, the lower the cost of energy, the cheaper the cost of goods and services...There's no denying that energy transition is adding to the cost of everything, add the current administrations' war on fossil fuels, and the American consumer is caught between a rock and a hard place, being rising prices and increased taxes that seem to have no end in sight....We are on a path to poverty and lower quality of life...That might all change in Nov though...

..."The 2022 United States elections will be held on Tuesday, November 8, 2022. During this midterm election year, all 435 seats in the House of Representatives and 35 of the 100 seats in the Senate will be contested."...

https://www.csis.org/analysis/defense-energiewende

Germany is reversing course...lesson learned

Lyn’s hate’ will ‘Trump’ all else.

Because your dealing with a guy who keeps pulling the pin with his grandiloquence posts and then tries to put the pin back in… and keeps failing…

Considering you’re the dump Queen.

From all your superior posts and predictions from 2015-2016 and laughing about it, really bite you on xxx on November 8, 2016, and we suffered your garbage posts for the next 4 years…