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Can the Earth recover from environmental pollution?

03/19/2022 10:10 PM

When Covid started early in 2020, the Philippines went into lockdown and everything practically stopped. Offices were closed, factories shutdown, and most people basically stayed home.

A few months later, I began reading things like, "this river has suddenly become clear and there are fishes in it." Or, "the air is so much fresher than I can remember it."

I don't know how it was in other countries but this got me thinking that the Earth can recover from environmental pollution much faster than what the doomsayers say. Or is it because, we haven't reached the point-of-no-return in terms of pollution levels?

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Re: Can the Earth recover from environmental pollution?

03/20/2022 2:07 AM

I don't know how it was in other countries but this got me thinking that the Earth can recover from environmental pollution much faster than what the doomsayers say.

A quote from Voltaire applies here;

”Man argue, Nature acts”

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Re: Can the Earth recover from environmental pollution?

03/20/2022 7:39 AM

With the right mindset and actions it could theoretically recover, if things do not go too far out of hand . The difficult thing is to recover from is environmentalists, single side information, demonizations, political correctness and a few more practical consepts like programmed obsolence and other sacred cows of our coulture, that produce only plentifull man*re. Too political again? I'll eat some super hot chilli and promice not to drink any water with it. (LOL) S.M.

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Re: Can the Earth recover from environmental pollution?

03/20/2022 9:30 AM

If our species goes extinct, in a short amount of geological time, there will be little evidence we were even here.

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Re: Can the Earth recover from environmental pollution?

03/20/2022 11:02 AM

Why don't you clean it up and see...? It was done here in the US...

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03/21/2022 7:56 AM

Typical Social Justice Warrior ‘types’…. Only for the environment Full of ideas for someone else to do and obey.

do as I say, not as I do.

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03/20/2022 6:40 PM

Of course, the Earth will survive our pollution. The question has always been how quickly will we kill ourselves with our pollution?

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03/21/2022 7:37 AM

After the nuclear holocaust, the world will have time to recover.

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03/21/2022 9:06 AM

Sit back, enjoy the continental drift, see new shore and meet new people.

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03/21/2022 8:36 AM

This brings to mind a George Carlin bit.....

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03/21/2022 10:30 AM

G Carlin is right on the spot.Earth will survive,and plate tectonics will knead our landfills down into the mantle to be added to the next volcanic eruption,as will all of our human remains.
Monuments,statues,awards,now simply lava;The digestive juice of the Earth.

The Earth will wobble into another snowball period,and glaciers will scrape the slate clean,with not even a layer of our existence left behind.

Eventually,the Earth itself will be recycled into star dust when the sun turns into a red giant,and will reduce to a small white dwarf,surrounded by a glowing ring of dust.

From dust it was born,to dust it shall return.

This too will vanish into scattered particles,growing farther and farther apart as the universe dies a heat death.

So what matters most right now is how we can help one another on a day to day basis.Want to change the world?:

Forget payback,remember the good and pay it forward,even if you have to start it.

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03/21/2022 11:22 AM

I agree that "what matters most right now is how we can help one another on a day to day basis." The problem with that is there are multiple answers to how we can "help one another" as to the environment. I am sure there are some who would disagree with my vision as how best to 'help people' just as I might disagree with others.

Going back to the dark ages by depending on the sun and wind to power our very highly industrialized world seems folly.

We may be able to ween ourselves away from fossil fuels sometime in the future but we will still need to drill for the crude oil due to our dependencies on the other byproducts from that same resource .

It seems a waste of a resource to then just dispose of the fuel aspects of the distillation process, and how do we dispose of the fuels without increasing pollution?

This link (6000 products) is just a partial list of what we humans depend on crude oil to supply.

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03/25/2022 5:02 AM

I think we will eventually go back to the dark ages,kicking and screaming the whole way.

It will only take a few solar mass ejections aimed our way to kick us back a few hundred years,or more.

Think about all of our power grids going down,world wide.

Communication satellites not functioning.

All solid state devices inoperable due to the magnetic storm pulse.

Only the very old vehicles would be functional,and then only till they run out of gas.

The gas pumps would not work,fuel would have to be pumped with a manual pump.

The Earth is billions of years old,mankind only a few hundred thousand,at most.

Plenty of time for previous civilizations to evolve,rise and fall and disappear without a trace.

Modern man may be just another experiment in process.

Gold fish are limited in size by their own bio-feedback;ie, the waste products in their water.It may be the same with mankind.Our pollution will limit our size and progress.

Every 8 minutes,a magnetic portal opens from the Earth to the sun.

Not only Earth,but other planets also.

Is this a form of unknown communication between the sun and planets?

Ridiculous,you say?Perhaps,but stranger things have happened.

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03/25/2022 8:51 AM

Dare I ask what could possibly be stranger things that have happened than what you described?????

Now I will agree that modern infrastructure is absolutely vulnerable as has been shown in some small scale attacks on oil pipelines and power grids.

The EMP would be a very effective weapon even at the level of a local battle considering military reliance on technology today.....makes one wonder how easily it could be for the lone hostile country (at least to the west) making microchips to bring down an entire military alliance.......

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03/25/2022 8:58 AM

Stranger?Well how about finding relics and technology of a previous ancient,prehistoric human presence on the far side of the moon,in caves,etc,with well preserved DNA.

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03/25/2022 9:22 AM

That would qualify!

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03/21/2022 9:30 AM

I think it is true. The green terrorists are yelling "Forbid the fossil fuels, forbid the nuclear facilities, lets go only to solar and wind energy sources etc...", and what happened - Russian military operation in Ukraine, oil and gas prices go way high, Arabs can`t count the money they collect by selling at that high prices, they live in the desert and don`t care about "green" Europe, USA, Asia, or Australia!!!

Also, i am agree that we have to stop doing/produce a lot of useless things to help the planet to clean itself, but it isn`t the way that green terrorists want and chant.

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03/21/2022 9:40 AM

Well there is your problem. All these idiots are in western countries, these countries who just happen to produce all that crap for the lazy folks who don't know how to make a simple fire or walk to work or ride a bicycle or. They need to maintain the image.

Are they now going to pile into Ukraine and clean it all up? I don't think so!

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03/21/2022 9:59 AM

That was my point at the end - to stop make people lazier by producing useless things. And my problem is with artificially high prices of oil - when people get poorer, some get richer - same as in comment #7.

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Re: Can the Earth recover from environmental pollution?

03/25/2022 9:29 AM

<...the Earth...> does <...recover from environmental pollution...>. It always has done. It is only a matter of timescale.

If one defines <...pollution...> as a substance or an effect that is in the wrong place, the question of what is right and what is wrong is where determination must reside.

Whether mankind will recover from the revelation and shock that it is the pollutant is the question that needs deeper thought.

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