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Grab bag items with no numbers

12/10/2022 6:35 PM

I got 5 of these in a grab bag from an electronics parts warehouse and they have no identifying marks or numbers on them other than a green dot painted on the top. None of them test out as transistors or capacitors and a continuity check between leads yields nothing forward or back so they are not diodes as far as I can tell.

You cant see in the picture but the outer leads exit at two right angles which I found to be kind of odd.

As you can see the three leads are different lengths and so I feel it is safe to assume there is polarization, possibly a VCC, GND and signal lead. I am leaning in the direction of a Hall Effect sensor, but not knowing which lead is which makes me cautious about applying power to test them further.

Anyone ever seen these before and know the part number or at least the pin-out?

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12/10/2022 11:13 PM

Take it back and get your money...it's useless without knowing what it is, then again maybe they know what it is...either way works for me....or you could try testing it with one of these multitesters...

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12/11/2022 11:48 PM

Depending on what the device turns out to be, that may or may not be better. I have a device very similar to the one in your previous post, that I got bare board (no case) from Banggood a few years back for something like $20. It has been fantastic. Unfortunately, it appears to be buried somewhere in the stack of stuff on my desk, so I can't show a picture or give a part/model number at the moment.

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12/12/2022 2:41 AM

Well that's true, but if you're going to be buying your electronic parts in grab bags, you could probably use a sophisticated analyzer...jus sayin'...

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12/12/2022 10:30 AM

I bought a grab bag to fill the "coffee can" and meet the free shipping requirement on my full order. Turned out to be a pretty good deal as I got a pound of transistors, diodes, resistors, ICs, and caps of many sizes and packages. A ton of the resistors are multi-turn pots. The list goes on. Good haul for pennies on the dollar. This supplier gets a lot of surplus from Raytheon and Varian and Harris L3 in the south bay area and is where I used to go for parts before I moved to the wine country. Been in business since the '60s. So many of the parts are mil spec. The same bag of "new" parts would cost $100+. These are new, but surplus.

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12/11/2022 10:30 AM

Reminds me of a practical joker technician that soldered several pieces of wire together and then covered the soldered end in epoxy so that it looked like a semiconductor device. He enjoyed asking "know-it-alls" what kind of device it was.

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12/11/2022 10:42 AM

Yeah It does seem that way. All my searches turn up similar packaging but nothing with three different length leads. The way they exit the case is similar to some transistors but the case itself is notched and shaped sort of like a Hall Effect sensor. The green dot may be to mark the surface that faces the magnet perhaps.

The case material seems to be black Bakelite.

I don't need them, but I'm curious because I've been able to ID just about every other component in the bag. A couple of MOSFETs and three lead voltage regulators will be useful, as well as all the resistors and caps and crystals.

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12/21/2022 8:09 PM

I could be a reed switch.Check to see if a magnet affects the continuity between any of the conductors.

Then switch magnet polarities to see if it changes.

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12/11/2022 10:50 AM

Reminds me when I had taken a Digital Electronics class in college. In our final exam, we’re we’re to assemble a circuit, on a hand out, each group was paired up. My partner didn’t show up. I was disappointed, but when I saw the other pairs… it was actually fortunate.

they were actually electronic students where I was mechanical and just took the course, because I thought it would be fun.

the instructor said something was wrong, and we had to found out what was wrong with it.

they were arguing with each other on what was wrong… trying to solve the problem before complete it the circuit… I in the other hand complete the circuit, and then trouble shoot it in a systematic manner, and found that ta chip wasn’t giving the require output to make the circuit work. I did my analysis and turned it in… the instructor and the class, could figure it out. The instructor asked how I did it. I told him, i did it systematically. First I competed the circuit where I would then troubleshoot it. They class heard me, and then proceed to complete their circuit. I left early.

mine was a bad chip.

I don’t recall much about it, it was 4o years ago. But looking back, if I would have laid out all the chips and tested the output.. I may have found the problem sooner…but hey, I put those electronic students in their place… that was satisfying enough.

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12/12/2022 2:27 AM

I used to be an electronics service technician back in the days when transistors outnumbered IC's on printed circuit boards (or the boards had nothing but transistors) but I have never seen a package like that. I even tried searching the package illustrations but nothing like what you have there appeared.

I did notice that the lead lengths seemed to be similar to dual LED lamps:

I know you already said that they don't test either forward or backward so they are probably not diodes or are defective . You didn't say what readings you got so it's difficult to say.
If you're willing to accept damage to one or two of them, you could try testing them as hall effect sensors. Connect 5 volts (the center should be the negative lead) to either side and monitor the other lead using a meter. See if it will respond to a magnet.

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12/12/2022 10:01 AM

That's the kind of answer I'm looking for. Thank you. I'll try that with 3v and then 5v.

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12/12/2022 1:19 PM

those look like hall effect sensors. or at least like some I have used in the past.

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12/12/2022 2:37 PM

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12/13/2022 5:21 AM

Just wondering whether they might be Infra-Red output rather than visible spectrum. It's now years since I handled discrete components, so simply a guess.

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12/13/2022 11:45 AM

The case appears to be completely opaque and made of Bakelite.

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12/13/2022 12:36 PM

There do exist materials which are opaque to visible light, but transparent to other wavelengths, like IR or UV, so it could still be an LED.

As has been suggested before, photos taken from a much smaller distance could help. Many newer smartphones, both iPhone and Android, can do it with a bit of care and patience.

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12/13/2022 2:59 PM

You know I was going to say it most resembled an ir receiver, they do seem to have the angled tabs...maybe it's a component for remote control...

Seems the green would be 36khz....yeah I know, no window...

https://www.tindie.com/products/analysir/infrared-component-starter-kit-ir-remote-control/

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12/13/2022 5:42 AM

"the outer leads exit at two right angles"

Can you get a picture of that? If we can identify the package it should be easier to home in on the actual device.

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12/13/2022 2:15 PM

Another view

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12/14/2022 7:47 AM

Have you tried testing it as an SCR?

https://www.circuitstoday.com/how-to-test-an-scr

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12/14/2022 9:56 AM

I'll give that a try too. Thank You.

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12/15/2022 11:13 AM

Color "coding" like this was used on varicaps. But then it should also test as a diode with a V forward drop etc. Are you sure it doesn't? S.M.

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12/15/2022 7:13 PM

I'm gonna mess with these some more this weekend. I'm really curious now, and I think they might be hall-effect sensors. Old ones. They are about the size of TO220 mosfet and my current hall sensors are the size of a 2n2222 transistor. These things are very magnetic too.

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12/16/2022 12:40 AM

You should have mentioned that: "These things are very magnetic too." at the beginning...

But is it the device that's magnetic, or the leads?

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12/16/2022 10:45 AM

I didn't know at the beginning. It seems to be the whole device which adds to my suspicion it's a hall effect sensor. There is no internal magnet so it is not biased but it sticks to the corner of my laptop in any orientation suggesting an iron pole piece inside. The leads are magnetic too but no more than any other nickle plated copper leads.

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