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Is this real?

06/10/2023 12:22 PM

As well as the precise alignment of the 4 objects, ie, the moon, the statue, the camera shutter and the camera film, you have to align all 4 at the one exact precise second in time when that alignment occurs.

Is it really possible to position those 5 so accurately in advance?

Brazilian photographer waited three years to record image of Christ the Redeemer ‘holding’ the moon

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06/10/2023 1:01 PM

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06/10/2023 2:19 PM

Maybe it doesn't need to be as precise as I imagined.

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06/11/2023 3:39 AM

The people walking on the mountain top does not coincide with the time lapse or speeded up recording of the moon. This recording could be suspected of manipulation.

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06/11/2023 6:59 AM

No, the recording of the moon is real time.

The moon subtends about ½° at the earth so you'd expect it to take about two minutes to "traverse it's own diameter".

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06/11/2023 3:59 AM

I used to take wedding photos back in the 1970 and back then by the use of various screens and multiple exposures images like this were possible with a Hasselblad or a Mamiya roll film camera.

Today it is so much easier to manipulate images.

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06/11/2023 5:35 PM

Here's how you might do it, using an app like this one:

https://www.mooncalc.org/#/49.495,11.073,3/2023.06.11/15:54/1/3

The statue's GPS coordinates are Latitude: -22.9510 Longitude: -43.2065.

The statue elevation:

2,430 feet. The statue and its pedestal, 98 feet tall, stands 2,340 feet above sea level... (Estimate the shoulders as 90 feet above base)

Plug into the app calculator the lat/long and elevation of the statue's shoulders. If you plug in the date and time, the app will give you the altitude and azimuth of the moon, and you can make a table. (You will have to subtract the moon radius from the altitude for the bottom of the moon). The times on your table will be a future date when the moon is full and rising above the statue.

From a distant viewpoint, with a theodolite you can measure the altitude and bearing to the statue's shoulders. You have to find a location so that the altitude and bearing and time can be interpolated from your table.

The idea is that the azimuth and elevation of the bottom of the moon from your camera position will be the same as the azimuth and elevation from the statue's shoulders.

I'm not sure if this is how the photographer did it, but he got a fantastic shot!

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06/13/2023 10:33 PM

This picture of the Eiffel Tower looks "too good". But I tend to be a skeptical person so take that with a grain of salt. I believe the Brazil photo looks very plausible because it is not perfect colors, etc. Using a telephoto lens from a long distance away like that is the only way to get these perspectives only taking one "image". I'm sure it is a lot harder than it might seem to get these shots.

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06/12/2023 7:26 AM

It does not seem so impossible. Given the timescale mentioned, the photographer has had time to pick the best vantage point & probably took a number of shots so that the best could be selected.

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06/12/2023 11:40 PM

The video of the moon passing behind the volcano was recorded through a telescope or telephoto lens. The apparent angular motion is magnified by the same factor as the image.

The desired image can be grabbed from a video recording, although resolution may be limited compared to a still photo.

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06/13/2023 7:03 AM

Well, yes: the ancients did it millenia ago, not with cameras and film, though.

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06/13/2023 3:17 PM

Of course! I've taken tens of thousands of photos with tens of thousands of dollars worth of equipment. I've had dark rooms in two houses. Never once have I given a thought to aligning the shutter and the film. And why does the original poster inquire about 5 objects while only listing 4?

A ridiculous question.

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06/13/2023 6:52 PM

Here is another split second event, preserved on electronic film:

ISS Solar transit

Science, or art?

I’m throwing a 5 Star rating on this thread. I like it.

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06/14/2023 3:42 PM

Only people who don't live in Rio de Janeiro need to calculate when to be at the right spot with the right lens to take this picture. Those who do live there can just observe, move around and simply wait for the right time. I'm not a bit surprised it took three years of patience and planning for everything to come together. I wonder how many bad weather days spoiled the celestial alignment?

Here's a nice time-lapse picture of the statue, a crescent moon, and Venus.

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06/14/2023 5:56 PM

Now that is a pretty cool series of images.

All of this prompted me to search for images of a somewhat similar icon, Our Lady of the Rockies, overlooking Butte, Montana, USA.

Odd... many images of Our Lady are clearly photoshopped.

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06/17/2023 5:17 PM

Alignment is an artform...

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