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Spammer spammed!

12/19/2007 7:22 PM

New Zealand Herald 19 Dec 2007 report

A British radio journalist and a Danish geek beat professional investigators in New Zealand to the home of an alleged "spammer" in Christchurch.

Radio 4 journalist Simon Cox, in Britain, was investigating the source of spam promoting penis enlargement pills being sold for US$70, when he tracked down the New Zealander involved, the BBC reported.

In a bid to track down the elusive figures sending him spam emails, he clicked on the Elite Herbal website, described by Richard Cox of the internet monitoring organisation Spamhaus as the world's biggest spammer sending unsolicited junk mail on the internet.

"They are probably one of the most intense spam operations on the internet today," said Richard Cox, who called them an "absolute pest".

The initial email had been sent by woman at a library in Florida, who turned out not to exist, and the website had been registered in China but with fake contact information.

"So instead, I decided to follow the money," said the journalist. His credit card payment for the Manster pills was processed by a website based in India but he was not the only amateur detective on the trail.

Henrik Uffe Jensen, an IT consultant from Denmark turned the tables on the company, placing request for pills, with a tiny piece of software hidden in the order form.

This allowed him to see the location and the unique IP address of the internet user accessing his order - one of which was in New Zealand.

"We found out the computer was in the south island of New Zealand," Simon Cox reported. "We also knew Vodafone was providing its internet service.

"We knew where the alleged spammer lived and it didn't take long for us to find out his name. He denied the claims when contacted and the matter is now being dealt with by authorities in New Zealand."

"We contacted Vodafone and after some checks they confirmed it was the spammer.

"The customer was sending the spam but not directly from his account," said a spokesman for Vodafone.

"He `hid' behind a number of other slave or zombie computers, making identifying his activities somewhat more difficult.

The investigation was followed by New Zealand's first anti-spam operation, in which the Internal Affairs Department's anti-spam unit executed four search warrants simultaneously, seizing 22 computers and boxes of documents from four Christchurch addresses.

Anti-spam investigators interviewed two Christchurch businessmen as part of the operation, the result of two-months of work with international agencies, Internal Affairs deputy secretary Keith Manch said.

They are now checking allegations the business organised people across the world to send spam on its behalf, using junk mail to offer watches and pharmaceutical products.

Mr Manch said that after the BBC published it news report the NZ unit had to move quickly to capture evidence supporting the spamming allegations, obtaining search warrants and mobilising search teams.

New Zealand's anti-spam law, the Unsolicited Electronic Messages (UEM) Act, took effect in September. The maximum penalties for sending spam - unsolicited, commercial, electronic messages - include a fine of $500,000 for an organisation or $200,000 for a person.

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Re: Spammer spammed!

12/19/2007 7:58 PM

And all that action, with Police raids simultaneously on 2 large businesses, plus homes and vehicles, and more than 100 assorted computers etc, happened less than 3kM from where I live.

And no, I am not involved.

I always wondered how some managed to drive round in extremely expensive cars, costing here approx NZ$300,000+

I did notice less on my mail server this morning.

Now all that is needed, is to clear out a few more Spam nests.

The real problem is that so many computers around the world are Spam Zombies, having insufficient Security to prevent a Trojan, worm, Script, Adware, Virus, or several, from making a home, allowing Spam relay operation through the Zombie computers....

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12/20/2007 3:25 AM

'And no, I am not involved.'

Hmm. A bit defensive, aren't we?

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12/20/2007 4:34 AM

Hello PlbMak,

I have found it is advantageous to make things very clear at the outset.

That way there can be no misunderstandings at a later date, and blame incorrectly apportioned.

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01/01/2008 11:10 AM

I hope one day there will be an international regulation on the SPAM.

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01/01/2008 1:21 PM

Hello FunnyNYPD,

A proposal to quickly decrease Spam was first suggested well over 10 years ago.

It was that in the same way Postal Services operate, each Email Message should be charged for, against the sender, who would pay the account as part of their ISP (Internet Service Provider) fee.

On learning that, Spam marketeers moved quickly to avoid the problem.

Trojans and scripts were written, Adware had extra underhand payload increased, GIF Bugs became common.

So.....Computers which did not or do not have sufficient Security Software, updated daily, became the special targets of this malware.

Once infested, these Computers have become under the Remote Control of others, and are now being used as Spam Zombies, by receiving a single message from the Spammer, then broadcasting that same message out as Emails by the thousands, worldwide to other Email Addresses.

The person who uses the Zombified Computer may not realise this, because the Malware which has been installed, contains its own Email sending engine, very small and often that Email sending engine Application may be named as something which looks OK and Correct.

So now, even if the Sender of an Email is charged for each Email sent, the Spammers are not going to have a huge ISP fee for the billions of Emails sent every day.

As I see it, the Internet as originally proposed works well, being essentially free, after the ISP and "excess data" charges are paid for.

There will always be swindlers and freeloaders, trying to get a free ride at the expense of others.

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01/01/2008 2:16 PM

Should Microsoft be responsible for letting millions of PC being the salves of spammer by their poor safety design?

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01/01/2008 6:40 PM

Hello FunnyNYPD,

I have understood your "..salves.." as meaning slaves. Perhaps it's time to replace your old keybroad.

To get back to your Question, and a very pertinent Question it is...

It cannot easily be done, because they always actually own the Software, you are just a Licensee, albeit a poorly informed one.

Remember that long, long Licensing Agreement you were supposed to actually read and comprehend, when you installed the Operating System, or other Software, and had to Agree to all terms and Conditions, or else not use the Software.

The fine print always states "these Terms and Conditions may be altered at any time....by the Licensor."

You never own the Software, it is licensed in perpetuity, and (The Licence) may not be re-sold.

I do believe even a Class Action suit would fail, unless in a Common Law Court.

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01/01/2008 6:51 PM

The thing interesting is I am using a Microsoft Keyboard and mouse. Sorry about the typo.

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