Defeat The So-Called Patent Reform Legislation

Amen to that!

Good, good, good.

Dear protn7

Does anyone know if Bush has vetoed the two bills from Congress.

Let me reply in a subdued tone: If a man of your position and posture and credentials is so uninformed about what your president is vetoing then I can only say "God save America". I thought that there would be some people that know these things. I thought that you would inform me (part of the deputies sheriffs office), of what is going on. How are we in Australia supposed to know about these things, if we are not connected to the patent attorneys bank details?

Thank you for raising the matter but no thanks. It is getting that idiotic with the "system" that it seems beyond belief, that if you are a novice or are single entity inventor you have not half a leg to stand on. Trust me, nobody really cares at all. We are the scum of the earth when it comes to recognition or even being listened to. Pay our dues, be ripped off, not pre-warned and ill informed. I could try and google but I am to busy making things that work at my whim and not at the unscientific whim of others, who only disrupt the enjoyment of inventing and try governing at the same time.

Why the hell do they want to hurt small independent inventors and small businesses and as well as academics who devote their careers to inventing things that benefit society?

Mate, they don't want to hurt us they just don't know or care if we exist. When was the last time you spoke to your congress man? (We call them names in Australia and never see them).

So you and I are right, it's all up hill and not a ladder in sight. Or can some one show me were there is this climbing aid that has not been invented yet. Inventing is easy, pulling it of is close to impossible. But that is what we are known for. Tenacity, vision, endurance, stubborness and just generally not agreeing to a NO in our quest to make this a more enjoyable planet to live on.

Force them to publish all of THEIR private memoirs and take away all of the money the politicians are paid for making political speeches!!!!

In 1968 I had those dreams. Too late. It's all sorted out. Pay up or effing loose. And don't shoot the messenger they will say. We are only following orders. This does remind me of some thing but I refuse to go there.

Crying on our shoulders will not help so you just go, go, go. Find out for the rest of us what the masters decision was on the matter. I care somewhat but am going my own ways. One door closes, the next opens.

With out being depressed, my garden would look a mess. With out the same there would be someone else to blame for the state of my fruit. All the best and hang in there. Ky.

Tell me about yourself Ky. You are telling me they dont care about us you are normal but why are they cutting off their noses faces to spite themselves? They are too screwed up toi realize they are hurtiung themselves when they hurt inventors who want to keep their applications secret. What do they think they are doing?

What do they think they are doing?

I think they really don't care. At all. Only if you proceed on their therms and pay your fees and dues and leave it all to the makers and shakers of this industry will they take notice. Not of you, but your and our inventions.

They make enough money to compensate for any hurt they cause us or themselves.

Please be reminded that in all competitive industries there are some brilliant and adorable people. Not all are as bluntly against us as it seems. I am making new contacts every week and with out their advice or input I would have given up a long time ago.

I have stopped chasing patents and am working on a plan to just do it. Be the first on the market. Have everything in place and get off the ground. Spend the $$ on advertising instead of the dream of having a patent.Patent or not you will be copied within the first year of sales. The better the idea the faster they will copy. Patent or no patent. Nobody can do any thing about it. Unless you are with the big boys that is. But even they struggle to keep up with the rip off. They can ad these expenses to their overall cost of the product, so they get away with it.

Maybe we get to see a tank smashing it's way over millions of pirated CD's to make us believe that something is done.

In the forum index of CR4 you will find very much related comments by some very knowledgeable people. Keeping our heads up high will not hurt anything. I am proud that I am not beaten yet. Bring it on.

Merry Christmas. Ky.

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TV land is getting weirder and weirder. Fox five in new York had a mysterious fire caused by mixing insecticide with show polish. And A TV station in Chicago got to show its' its' newsroom being hit by a car in a bizarre accident. The cameras showed it coming right through the front windows on the ground floor.

Those lowlifes are in the pay of the multinationals, the Chinese, the Russians, the Arabs, Big Oil and every other group that wants a piece of the US and unless you can afford to outbid that lot then you're dead in the water.

Protn7, regarding the pending patent legislation, President Bush has nothing to veto. Senate bill S. 1145, a.k.a. The Patent Reform Act of 2007, is currently tied up in the Senate. It has not been voted on yet, and believe me, plenty of opposition is being raised by independent inventors, small-to-medium sized tech businesses, many large corporations across a range of industrial sectors, and many of us patent practitioners who have them as clients. For some information on the legislation (not necessarily current), see the Wiki on it. To see what constructive action(s) you might take in opposing the bill, go to the Innovation Alliance website. It is very good. To see the proponent's views, see the "Coalition for Patent Fairness" website.

I am on your side BTW. I think many provisions of the bill as drafted would be very detrimental to our economy, and are counter to the basic principles of inventors' property rights we have enjoyed and benefited from for over 200 years. I have made these views known to my legislators, and I would encourage you and others so inclined to do the same.

jhammond

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Thanks for the news. I saw an article on the net saying Bush had told the Press he was going to veto it. What is the coalition for patent fairness? Where does their support come from? I'm against them every step of the way.

I'm not in a festive mood. I did get all of the jokes in the "patent" you wrote

but I'm not laughing. Finding out that Bush says he will veto it and your news that it is tied up in the Senate committee was a real relief for me.

Thanks jhammond

No more patents for me. I'm out and have been for a long time. Fighting wind mills is not fun. Ky.

Write your congress person and ask that they include protection for the patenet application while it is in approval proccess.

Currently China can and does rip-off anything they like and they use our jobs and money to do it. I would say take away their "Most Favored Nation" trading status and restrict thier exports to the US until they play by rules that dont damage us. Our politicians (!$#!%#@%#$) have sold us out to offshore @$%$#%#$ by giving away our jobs and money. The working class has been victimized by the investor class and the govt helped them. Once the problem is at a crisis then these same @#$$# will step in as heros and do something for ues, the afflicted. The govt is supposed to protect us from externalities like predetory practices and foriegn institiutions. They have sold the working class out to them and in the proccess enriched the investor class calling it "profitable".

Actually, there is one area that would benefit the lone inventor if there was some reform to the patent system - the USPTO should do what the European PO does - make the law apply on the side of the first to file, not the first to invent, and along with that, take away the need to follow up within one year. The reason for taking away the 1 year deadline is if you're a lone inventor and you've filed a patent, you will know that a 1 year deadline to move to the 2nd stage just gives the multinationals an excuse to stall and hang you out to dry for a year. But if, upon filing, your invention is found to be novel and not obvious, and you are granted a 20 year patent, which is kept valid by paying the annual fees - low at first, getting gradually higher and peaking at say 15 years to take account of increasing income, then the lone inventor has time to develop and maybe licence his invention while preventing the multinationals from playing the waiting game. Hey, I was just kidding! It'll never happen. Lone inventors don't have cash to pay congressmen. Multinationals do.

You are not kidding they do give contributions to congressmen. My Congressman is corrupt himself. He's been covering up a conspiuracy in his office. There was one mention of that on the local cable channel here on long island.

I wouldn't tamper with the provisional patent provisions that give inventors an opportunity to make an application for a small amount of money. I'm counting on that to get some patents pending. I cant pay for a lot of patents up front. Investors will give me money for stuff that has a a a patent pending to protect it.

The OP for this thread, protn7, is Neil Farbstein, so-called president (actually the sole employee) of Vulvox. He has claimed many research breakthroughs, yet a little internet research shows only what Farbstein has posted himself - and there is an awful lot of that.

Despite his whine in the OP, he has no patents.

OK... but there is no law that says one has to be a patentee in order to have an opinion on the Patent Reform Act of 2007.

jhammond

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www.patent-innovations.com

I was granted a patent on my carbon nanotube adhesive recently. Does anyone know the lastest news on the bills in congress? I look at the USPTO website and could not find info on the issue of publicizing patents before they issue. I think the present system is perfect.

I think the present system is perfect.

If USPTO would be as perfect as you say why ask CR4? Not so perfect after all? Ky.

It's the house and the sentae that are pushing the bills. I dont know what role the USPTO is playing, if they are encouraging the changes or not. If they really want to speed up processing they should hire more exmainers and leave the rest of the system the same.

Mr. Guest -

Regarding the status of S.1145, "The Patent Reform Act of 2007," here is an excerpt from a recent posting (4/25/2008) on the discussion board of the National Association of Patent Practitioners, by Louis Hoffman, Government Affairs Committee Chair and Board Member, NAPP:

"Here is a brief update: As you may have read, the bill's author, Sen. Patrick Leahy (D-VT), has been unable to come to an agreement with the ranking Republican on the Judiciary Committee, Senator Arlen Specter (R-PA). The main point of disagreement relates to the "centerpiece" of the legislation, which (in essence) would make the base on which a reasonable royalty would be calculated for damages measured by a fraction of an infringing product's price representative of the invention's essence. Because of this lack of agreement, the bill has not been given Senate floor time, although the majority leader, Sen. Reid (D-NV), had previously agreed to reserve time this month.

There have been published reports interpreting this as meaning that the bill is dead. There is a serious question as to when floor time could be scheduled if needed, especially given budget and the election, but it is not necessarily true that the bill is dead, even for this session. Both Sens. Leahy and Specter have indicated they would like to find common ground. If that happens, the bill could come back to life again, as often occurs in the Senate.

Senator Feinstein and her staff have been trying to see if they can craft a "compromise" between the forced opposed to the bill in its current form and the forces promoting it, to see if they can make everyone happy. That is what the reference in her letter means. In the view of some, including me, that is a futile exercise, because it is pretty much a binary decision as to which one cannot compromise. (For example, a light switch without a dimmer is either on or off.) However, it is not clear that her staff understands that the dispute is not subject to such compromise, and it is also possible that the situation is not quite as binary as I am suggesting. She deserves credit for thinking "outside the box," although obviously it is in her political interest to make everyone happy - at least she is trying, as opposed to "carrying water" for one side like Sen. Leahy.

I encourage all interested parties to continue to be in touch with Senate offices and ask them to provide a copy of any new version of the bill that might become available. Merely asking shows continued interest in this subject area. Thanks for your interest and collaboration on an issue of huge significance for American innovation and prosperity.

Louis J. Hoffman
Government Affairs Committee Chair & Board Member
National Association of Patent Practitioners"

So at this point, the bill is not dead, but in ongoing negotiations. The best way to keep up with any further developments is probably through contact with one of your Senators' offices.

BTW, as a patent practitioner, I believe that the present USPTO system is far from perfect, and longer term it is unsustainable. The average time from application filing to examination is now over two years, and continues to grow. Hiring more examiners is part of the solution, but there are other issues to address as well.

jhammond

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www.patent-innovations.com

Do you know what they are planning vis a vis the nonpublishing option? They should keep that.

Guest,

No, I don't, other than the bill as originally drafted had mandatory publication in it. So if it passes with that provision, the non-publication option is dead.

jhammond

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www.patent-innovations.com

The should kill the legislation. Inventors should get money not imitators who improve on un-issued patents that have been published before the inventors themselves could have perfected those inventions. It gives unfair advatages to big businesses especially those in japan and europe and other parts of the world.