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Technology in Cricket

01/23/2008 7:51 AM

Well cricket is undoubtedly one of the most exciting sport of modern day world. And as obvious, it is also adopting more and more technology for its smooth running. My question is how do we measure the various speeds, like the speed of bowl bowled be the bowler & speed of swing of bat, on the field? Also tell if the detected speed is the approximate speed or the actual speed?

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01/23/2008 5:57 PM

I know I am probably going to take a lot of heat for this but...

Sorry, I must disagree that "cricket is undoubtedly one of the most exciting sport of modern day world. And as obvious, it is also adopting more and more technology for its smooth running." Any game that takes days to complete is pretty slow and to me is not very exciting.... and as for technology, how much technology is needed for a ball, a bat, and some funky clothes...?

Having said that, in American baseball (another rather slow sport in my opinion) ball speed is measured with a radar gun.

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01/23/2008 7:48 PM

"Sorry, I must disagree that "cricket is undoubtedly one of the most exciting sport of modern day world. And as obvious, it is also adopting more and more technology for its smooth running." Any game that takes days to complete is pretty slow and to me is not very exciting.... and as for technology, how much technology is needed for a ball, a bat, and some funky clothes...?"

I think he meant it as a joke.. :D

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01/23/2008 7:58 PM

Nope, Dead serious.. I have traveled all over the world and I find it amazing and mysterious why people like Cricket. But just to get myself in more trouble, I don't understand why people like American Baseball either...

Last time I was in the UK I saw a great episode of Braniac where they did a face off between a Cricket bat, a Baseball bat, and a Golf club in smashing cars. The Cricket bat won for good reason. That was entertaining.

Cricket??? Not for me...

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01/24/2008 12:26 PM

Yes, of course, everyone has got a different perception of things and a different perspective of viewing them. The same is true for u too. Atleast I think so about cricket!!!! U dont and u have made it known on screen as well. But the main thing was the answer of the question which u didnt bother about. Well nothing in this world is simple, it all depends on the way u see it!!! Even before we came to know about gravity, everything used to fall down...!!! Everything has its own charm. Rather than being sarcastic in columns, you should rather focus on helping someone out with their queries using your intelligence. I apologise if I offended you. I also thank you for taking out precious time for posting an "answer" for my query.

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01/24/2008 2:03 PM

Uh, first of all if you read a bit closer above you will find that I did address the question.

Once more, a radar gun is a good way to measure ball speed, as I said above.

Second, there is a long standing tradition at CR4 of getting off topic, just as would happen in any friendly conversation. I was not being sarcastic at all. If the comment is not pertinant to your question, feel free to mark it off topic, and then the next time you log in you won't see it..

Finally, this is a online forum, don't take things so seriously!

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01/24/2008 3:27 AM

As a true Brit, I feel I must divulge the secret of cricket in the UK. Ie, why it's at all popular. (And no, I'm not a fan)

It's the drinking!

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01/24/2008 7:42 AM

yeah, my wife says that sailing is just another excuse to drink. And volleyball. And golf. What she hasn't sussed out yet is the reason why I drink! I doubt she ever will unless I get a lawyer to explain it to her.

Is that cricket?

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01/24/2008 8:06 AM

No!

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01/24/2008 7:28 AM

Cricket boring? Maybe seems so at first for people with short attentions spans, but a game can really start to hot up after only the first 16 or 17 hours.

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01/24/2008 8:05 AM

With test cricket, you have days, nay, weeks of top entertainment!!!

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01/24/2008 5:24 PM

Hi Steve

I know I am probably going to take a lot of heat for this but...

No heat is coming your way just a few hints so that maybe one day you could enjoy the game (war) of cricket.

1. It is the toughest team sport played on this planet at the moment.

2. It is not only about the guy bowling or the batsman hitting it is also the team standing and anticipating not only the speed but other parameters like spinning balls, direction of wind, position of sun, grade of hang over etc.

3. The speed of the ball is only one of the many variants of the game. Just making the one side of the ball more shiny than the other can make a hell of a difference. That is why the keep rubbing themselves all the time. With the ball that is. A batsman ahs not only the ability to read the speed but to anticipate the spin and were it came from. No mashine will ever be able to do that. Reading the speed is only a gimmick for the bored veiwers that need numbers/stats to get a kick out of it.

4. Knowing your apposing team and its specialist members can give you an advantage over them. If you know that the wicket keeper (thats the one standing all protected behind the stumps) had a few to many last night you can make him suffer (and the team).

5. Hitting the same spot over and over again not only on the pitch but on the body if you really want to play it hard (body line).

6. Not showing that it really hurt (the last ball hitting you on the upper arm) because if you do it just invites more torture. It is the past time of wearing down.

7. Fielding. If you know that the batsman is intimidated you can change the fielding to get him closer to being off balance. If you smell fear go harder sort of a thing.

8. Concentration. A team of fields-man has to concentrate for about 8 hours (Test cricket) with only small brakes. All of them have to have built in speed reading devices that can also anticipate or read a spinning ball which can travel at speeds of over 140 km. Some are much faster and require super human reactions. You try and defend against an object the size and weight of an orange traveling at 100 miles per hour, hitting the ground just in front of you and not knowing which way it is going to take off after making contact with the surface. The surface is as hard as concrete but has little cracks which some bowlers aim for.

9. Sledging. The best thing since telling some one his wife has an affair with the one of the other players. Or to tell him that he looks like a monkey and behaves like one too.

10. Cricket is an acquired taste like blue cheese or Stravinsky music. If you don't like it and know nothing of the rules it could take years to comprehend and be appreciated.

11. Like in many other sports, games are lost "in the head" and not on the field. You can still win a game even if you are down and out and hurt. It takes real fighting spirit and a good leader to come back with the ashes not from the ashes.

I only got to know cricket 25 years ago and learn with every game I watch. It is fear that stops me playing it myself. Fear of pain that is, not loosing. Fear of not being able to play an instrument because the thumb is broken and will take months to heal, if it ever gets back to normal.

Back to the thread. I can now, after many years, tell if a ball reaches a certain speed. Just by experience. You know when it reaches 168km because shortly after the batsman collapses in a heap of pain. He will go on if he is a true team player. No good being called a wuzz after the game.

Cricket: The toughest team sport there is. Ky.

PS: Yes I am serious and could go on and on.

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01/25/2008 4:20 AM

"Sledging. The best thing since telling some one his wife has an affair with the one of the other players. Or to tell him that he looks like a monkey and behaves like one too."

There's a story about Ian Botham coming in to bat, the Aussie captain says 'hello Ian, how's your wife & my kids?', Botham replies 'the wife's fine but all the kids are retarded'.

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01/25/2008 7:38 AM

Admitted that is a bit of wit. But for us revolting colonials, what is sledging?

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01/25/2008 8:12 AM

Sledging is the art of trying to upset an opponent by making derogatory remarks in order to put them off of their game.

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01/25/2008 9:29 AM

Ah, "slagging" here. Or in the modern vernacular, "talking trash."

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01/25/2008 10:44 AM

Alright Ky, you have me convinced. Next time I am in Oz we can put on our best sheer summer dresses, put down a few pints of Fosters and go watch the blokes go rub themselves shiney.

I think I owe the original poster an apology. He rightly chastised me for my answer, because now things have really gone off the deep end....

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01/25/2008 3:17 PM

It's the balls they rub shiny and only one side or area. It usually leaves them with a red streak down there sides. If you come to Oz lets go diving. Beats cricket any day. Down there nothing has to be shined or sledged. It looks very peaceful but it's not. Every thing is eating every thing. All of the time. Ok it is a bit like cricket. See Ya. Ky.

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01/26/2008 2:59 AM

......but in such a fun, nice way!!!!

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02/02/2008 5:17 AM

Sorry I'm a bit late in this discussion, but I think that having a hard ball, (rock hard, I speak from experience) thrown at your head at nearly 100mph can get pretty exciting.

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02/04/2008 2:52 AM

For you, yes!

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01/23/2008 11:20 PM

sorry for the following statement which i make under extreme provocation: "if cricket became america's no.1 sport, there will be no wars in this world".

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reverting to the topic, would embedding a transmitter chip in the ball and then tracking it be more accurate?

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01/24/2008 8:24 AM

I don't follow the logic of the statement regarding cricket and prevention of war. I thought football (in the soccer sense) was what kept the Europeans from each other's throats.

As to putting a chip into the ball I would expect that the chip would have to be incapsulated in a way that would prevent the shock loading from the bat (or whatever it's called in cricket) from destroying the circuit.

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01/24/2008 10:50 AM

They do it in the states with Ice Hockey Pucks already, so it must be possible.....the accelerations of a cricket ball must be similar I would guess....

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01/24/2008 11:23 AM

Yeah, that's interesting. Here's a link to a reference article.

http://csdl2.computer.org/comp/mags/cg/1997/02/g2006.pdf

I'm not positive this approach is usable for a cricket ball, but the radar system might work as cricket is played outdoors, so the reflected radar signal wouldn't be an issue.

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01/25/2008 6:25 AM

The logic is simple -

Rumsfeld: "hey - you guys wanna go invade somewhere or something?"

Cheney: "I'm in"

GWB: "uh - sure - but I'm watching the game - can we wait until the cricket is over?"

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......serious, almost geological quantities of time passes......

GWB: "hey - great game. How fast do you reckon the ball goes?"

Cheney: "Who cares?"

GWB: "Good point. What was that you wanted to do?"

Rumsfeld: (wakes on the couch) "huh? I dunno - was it go to Denny's?"

Cheney: "Hey - don't I own Denny's?"

GWB: "Great - your shout - I love Denny's!"

Cheney: "Wait - I think it might be Burger King I own"

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01/23/2008 11:53 PM

Cricket commentary "Oh look, 2 seagulls doing it on the field, about as much action we have had on this slow day"

Now, if Cricket was replaced by the original (as documented in Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy) then it would be exciting ;o)

Ball tracking and speed can be done optically,

You have a camera at the side, and at the end, you know the arc the ball takes, the distance from end to end, and from the footage, the time the ball travels over the known distance.

Then from this, you can plot on the TV screen, the trajectories of the ball in flight, where it goes, how fast, and so forth.

Now for Cricket being so full of action, they don't need super fast computers to display this information, as they have all the time in the world between each bowl, and over (damn game is never over)

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01/24/2008 2:12 AM

If you were brought up in a country where cricket is played:-

UK, South Africa, West Indies, Australia, New Zealand, India & Pakistan (apologies if I messed anyone out!) for example and you REALLY understand the game by "being immersed since Birth" so to say, it is an interesting sport indeed.

If you were not lucky enough to be so born, it could appear to be very boring. But living in Germany, I miss having the possibility of a lazy Sunday, watercress sandwiches, tea and later a beer maybe......it was very relaxing......I used to help keep score when I was not even 10 years old......TV cricket is a poor substitute for being there......seeing the ladies in their thin summer dresses etc etc etc.....

I am sure many people who profess a complete lack of interest would change their mind if they actually had the chance to "BE THERE!".....

I would say to those who are not interested, just leave it to those who are!!!

I would expect that the same electronics (radio transmitter) that goes into Pucks for ice hockey could be adapted for cricket!!! How the signals are detected, I haven't a clue sorry....but they do a great job on TV for Ice Hockey!

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01/24/2008 7:35 AM

I agree completely Andy. The one American baseball game I enjoyed was when I lucked into some fre box seats in Philadelphia, about 2 meters from the field. That was fun.

I am sure I would enjoy attending an actual match. Especially the sheer summer dresses!

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....ON THE LADIES I meant!!!!

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I don't think they would make you wear a summer dress, it's down to your personal choice.

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01/24/2008 11:26 AM

The thought of either Andy or Steve or both in a sheer dress just isn't cricket.

I do agree that baseball is more interesting in person, but having coached little league for years I have a skewed perspective.

Or is that a warped perspective?

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I bet Andy can pull it off... I have a moustache so for me it doesn't work so well..

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...you do have to try and ignore my beard.....sorry about that!!

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I've even bought matching lipstick and underwear, JUST 4 YOU!!!

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01/24/2008 4:25 AM

Why do we need to know the speed of the ball or the bat, surely the only thing that matters is whether or not the batsman hits the ball?

One of the things that really puts me off of watching sport on tv is the excess of meaningless statistics that the commentators produce, mainly I suspect because they have nothing interesting to talk about.

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01/24/2008 6:45 AM

It seems instead answering question there are comments regarding the game. Every country has its popular sport. It can be cricket, football, base ball etc. If it is popular in one country why others should feel bad about it. You play your own game and allow other to play their game. If you dont like game dont play it or watch it, play or watch what ever is liked by you. I am sorry I cant answer basic question about speed of ball etc, it may be like cop checking up speed of running car on the highway.

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01/24/2008 2:11 PM

This company makes a life out of measuring the in flight characteristics of balls for various sports. (http://www.edhsport.com/) They started out measuring the characteristics of the projectiles from big guns, field and naval and branched of with the same technology into sport.

PS. I prefer chess to cricket, less boring.

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01/25/2008 7:04 AM

i think you might got the answer for this question from a software developer rather than asking here... its all the sensors that do detect and measures the speed in micro or nano seconds so it is exact and accurate ... just the necessity is that u hav to believe it

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Hi Guys,.. there is actually plenty of reasons for adding technology to cricket - all the subtle skills of how you flight the ball, where you make it bounce, how much spin you put on it, how sucessfully the batsman uses footwork to get in position for a particular shot ,where you place fieldersetc etc.....all of these (and many more) are specific skills that if measured flaws can be identified and worked on and improved. . On tv the technology is more about explaining the game and tactics (and entertainment of course).

Also perhaps not fully understood by some posters is how big the sport is world wide - its actually second only to Soccer! Big big bucks in cricket - particularly in Asia.

I know of a UK company that is specialising in mass-market cricket technology -

"PitchVision" - they have a range of cricket technology products and I find it interesting; though Im not sure how affordable it would be for most people!

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