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Li-Ion Battery-Blast

02/11/2008 5:45 AM

Dear Intellects

i am in a big spot of bother. we use li-ion batteries as source for our heated products. I was charging the battery with battery plugged to the heated product. I charged it for more than its actual charging time. After a precise period of time i heard a loud blast and i was terribly surprised to see my floor on fire and never in my wildest dreams i imagined this to happen.I had a complete faith in our product and its quality.

My analysis

* overcharging

* over heating

*failure of cells

* failure in charger

* protection circuit failed

*over discharging

COMPLETE SPEC

1. Kind of Products specified

2.1. Name Lithium Ion Rechargeable Battery

2.2. Type 2S1P(7.4V-1500mAh)

2. Basic Characteristics

Item Description
3.1. Rated Capacity 2000mAh

(Discharge at 0.2C from 16.8V to 12.0V)

3.2. Nominal Voltage 14.8V
3.3. Charge Voltage 16.8V±0.10V
3.4. Charge Method CC/CV
3.5. Max. Charge Current 0.5C(1000mA)
3.6. Cut-off Voltage 12.0V
3.7. Max. Continuous Discharge Current 0.75C(1500mA)
3.8.Operating Temperature Charge 0 ~ +45℃
Discharge -20~ +60℃
3.9. Storage Temperature 1 month 3 months 6 months
-20~+60℃ -20 ~ +45℃ -20 ~ +25℃
3.10.Environmental Humidity 65±20%
3.11.Dimensions(mm): L ×W ×H 145× 37.0× 37.0
3.12.Weight 405g(Approx.)

4Appearance

Defects, such as scratches, flaws, dirty spots, rust, leakage, etc., which damage commercial values shall not be presented.

5. Specification

5.1.Electrical Characteristics

Items Performances Conditions
5.1.1.

Complete Charge

/ Charging the battery with 0.5C of constant current and 16.8V of constant voltage for 4h.
5.1.2.

Internal Impedance

R≤500 mΩ Measured at 1KHZ after complete charge
5.1.3.

Initial capacity

> 2000mAh Measured with discharge current 0.2C to 11.0V cut-off within 1h after complete charge.
5.1.4.

Cycle Life

500cycles

( Capacity≥70% of initial capacity)

Charge / discharge at 0.5C to 12.0V
5.1.5.

Discharge at -20℃

Capacity≥70% After complete charge, Stored the battery at -20℃ for 20hrs and then discharge at 0.5C to 12.0V.
5.1.6.

Discharge at 55℃

Capacity≥90% After complete charge, Stored the battery at 55℃ for 2hrs and then discharge at 0.5C to 12.0V.
5.1.7.

Storage

Retention capacity

≥85%

Capacity after 28days storage at 20±5℃ from complete charge.
Recovery capacity

≥75%

Capacity after 7days storage at 55±2℃ from complete charge.

5.2. Mechanical Characteristics:

Items Performances Test Methods
5.2.1. Vibration No leakage, no venting, no explosion and no fire The battery is to be subjected to simple harmonic motion with amplitude of 0.8mm.The frequency is to be varied at the rate of 1Hz per minute between limits of 10 and 55Hz. The cell is to be tested in three mutually perpendicular directions.
5.2.2. Drop test No leakage, no venting, no explosion and no fire The cell is to be dropped from a height of 1m with 3cycles.

5.3. Safety Characteristics:

Items Performances Test conditions
5.3.1.

Heavy Impact

No explosion and no fire Use 10kg hammer fall free on the battery from 1m height
5.3.2. Overcharge No explosion and no fire Continue to Charge the battery at 0.5C/16.8V after complete charge
5.3.3.

Over-discharge

No explosion and no fire Discharged at a constant current of 0.2C to 11.0V, then discharge with external load of 50Ω for 24hrs.
5.3.4.

Short-circuit

No explosion and no fire The battery is to be short-circuited by connecting the positive and negative terminals with load of 0.1Ω for 1h
5.3.5.

Heat Impact

No explosion and no fire The charged cell shall be placed in an oven. The oven temperature shall be increased at a rate of 5℃±2℃ per minute to 150℃±2℃ and maintained at 150℃±2℃ for 30min.

6. Required Protection Functions

To insure safety, the charger and the protection circuit shall satisfy the following conditions. As an additional safety feature, please use in combination with the temperature fuse or polyswitch. The standard charge method is CC/CV(Constant current/ Constant voltage).

Charger

No. Items Parameter
1 Charge Termination Voltage 4.20V ± 0.05V

Protection function(for reference only)

2 Excess Charge Detection Voltage 4.35V ± 0.025V
3 Excess Charge Release Voltage 4.175V ± 0.05V
4 Discharge Termination Voltage 2.75V ± 0.10V
5 Excess Discharge Detection Voltage 2.30V ± 0.08V
6 Excess Discharge Release Voltage 2.40V ± 0.10V
7 Excess Current Detection Value 3 A ± 0.2A

7. Storage and Warranty period

7.1. Standard storage condition:

Pre-charge 20-30%; Temperature:20℃±5℃; Humidity:65±20%

7.2. Warranty period:

12months from manufacture code.

8. Usage indications:

Please read and follow the handing instructions for the cell before use. Improper use of the cell may cause heat, fire explosion or capacity deterioration of the cell.

8.1. WARNING

● Do not put the cell into a fire, or heat the cell, do not store the cell in high temperature environment.

● Do not connect the cell reversed in positive and negative terminals in the charger or equipment.

● Do not let the cell terminals contact a wire or any metal with which it carried or stored together, may cause short-circuit.

● Do not submerge the cell in water, do not wet the cell when store the cell.

● Do not drive a nail in, hit with a hammer, or stamp on the cell , do not strike the cell in other ways.

● Do not disassemble or alter the cell's outside structure.

9. NOTICE

● The cell shall be charged and discharged with proper charger, in compliance with correct operation contents.

● Do not use the cell with other brand's cells, different types and or models of cells such as primary cells, nickel-metal hydride cells, or nickel-cadmium cells, or new and old lithium ion cells together.

● Do not leave the cell in a charger or equipment if it generates an older and/ or heat, changes color and/or shape, leaks electrolyte, or cause any other abnormality.

● Do not discharge the cell continuously when it is not charged.

9.1. CAUTION

● In case young children use the cell, instruct them on the contents of the instructions and ensure the cell is correctly is correctly used by them at all times.

● The cell was inspected carefully by QA before shipment to confirm with the specifications. However, in the case any abnormality of bad smell or heat, etc., arise after purchase, bring it and communicate with us.

● For long-term storage, please charge at 0.5C for about one hour in advance.

● Do not use the cell in other than the following conditions , otherwise, the cell might cause heat generation, damage, or deterioration of its performance.

Operating environment

Charge: 0℃ ~ 45℃

Discharge:-20℃ ~ +60℃

Store less than 1 month:-20℃ ~ +60℃

Store less than 3 months:-20℃ ~ +45℃

Store less than 6 months:-20℃ ~ +25℃

THIS EVEN HAS BECOME A WORRYING POINT OF CONCERN.COULD SOMEONE SUGGEST A RELIABLE SOURCE TO TEST THESE DAMAGED BATTERIES TO PERFECTION HENCE THIS DO NOT HAPPENS AGAIN.

MANY THANKS TO ALL

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Re: LI-ION BATTERY-BLAST

02/11/2008 6:25 AM

Hello victovar

You are not going to be able to use those batteries damaged in the blast, because the makers of the battery may rightly say that any further blast was caused by your using damaged batteries against supplied advice.

All re-chargeable batteries are prone to explosion on excess charging/high temperature/over-voltage and other factors.

The better battery packs have a fusible link, plus a thermal auto-resetting cutout included into the battery pack.

If the battery overheats, the cutout disconnects the battery first, and reconnects automatically upon battery cooldown.

The fusible link is normally rated some 20 degrees Celsius above the cutout temperature, and disconnects permanently if the cutout fails to open the charging/discharging circuit.

I suggest that you carefully check with your supplier, who may not have a proper Quality Assurance check at the factory, a faulty batch of product, or that battery may have been damaged in storage/transit.

However, upon looking at the warnings given in your Post, assuming they are given by the battery maker, would tend to rule out manufacturing faults/Quality Assurance problems.

Dependent on your distance from, and quality of relationship with the battery makers, it would be best to ship the batteries back to them, so they may be properly checked.

I would be getting timers at least, fitted in the supply lead for the chargers, once the chargers have been checked.

There are good chargers out now, computer controlled, which ensure that batteries can never be overheated, overcharged, and may remain on-line indefinitely.

These chargers are more expensive than the standard "el cheapo" type, which do not properly regulate boost/charge/float current in the battery.

Hope that assists you.

Reply back here with on your progress thank you.

Kind Regards....

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Re: LI-ION BATTERY-BLAST

02/11/2008 6:40 AM

Sparky is right. I did not see what battery chemistry you are using, but Lithium batteries do provide a spectacular show when they go.

I also agree that it probably has more to do with the quality of manufacture. Remember the BIG recall Japan had with lithium batteries?

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02/12/2008 5:27 AM

hi Sparky

thanks for your comments. do you think the unit might have exploded just because the the battery was live and discharging. and other point is to be noted that that just one among two cells have been damaged. the protection and discharging circuitory was also provided. this really puts me in dark since this is the first time it has occured.

scary as well!!!

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Re: LI-ION BATTERY-BLAST

02/12/2008 6:38 AM

Hello again victovar

In every rechargeable battery with the battery cells in series, there will always be one cell which has a slightly higher internal resistance than the others.

Because heat in Watts = (W = I2R) = (W = E2/R) over time that "weaker cell" gets more voltage across it whilst the complete battery is being charged.

This is the cell which heats up more than the others, and is going to fail first, whether by explosion or otherwise.

It doesn't matter what type of rechargeable battery is involved: Lead Acid, NiMH, Li-Ion, NiCd, Fe Hydroxide, or other type, the principle still holds true: One cell will always fail first, because from assembly time, it had a slightly higher internal resistance than the others in the series construction.

I note you had your "Heating appliance" plugged in at the same time you were charging the battery, it is also possible that heat from that heated appliance was conducted back to the battery via the connectors plug assembly.

You don't state the actual "Heating Appliance", or give pictures of the Appliance or Battery - pictures in a reply Post here would assist with further diagnosis.

As the rechargeable battery pack voltages have risen over the years, (some running at 24 Volts now), as the number of cells in the battery increased, more troubles from a single cell overheating have resulted - exactly what could be expected.

It may be possible to get your battery pack assembler to add an extra fusible link alongside each cell in the battery pack.

Thus if ANY cell overheats to a higher level than the auto-resetting cthermal cutout, the battery pack open circuits completely.

These fusible links are quite small, cheap, and are a good safety feature, to avoid explosion and/or fire from the overheating problem.

Of course a single auto-resetting thermal cutout is all that is needed per battery pack.

Advise how you are progressing thank you.

Kind Regards....

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Re: LI-ION BATTERY-BLAST

02/12/2008 2:07 PM

Hi Sparky

we heat garment and various products using a polymer that is heated using paralell running copper wires which act as electrodes. the product we which was involved in the explosion was a heated neck warmer. it is provided with a couple of metal studs onto which the battery is fitted.

just a quick thought. our battery supplier never revealed the fact that it was li-polymer cells used in these batteries until i dug into the facts. the charger he provided reads 8.4 V and 0.75 amps which is suitable for charging li-ion batteries. does that ring a alarm??


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02/12/2008 5:48 PM

"...does that ring a alarm??..."

What it would ring for me is the telephone of a different battery supplier - one who can be trusted...

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02/13/2008 3:47 AM

Hello victovar

If you advised your battery supplier of your requirements before purchasing both batteries and chargers, then it appears that you were supplied incorrectly.

Because I do note that information on the charts in your first post do not seem to match up with some other informations there, nor with your above post.

There are several discrepancies.

  1. Are those charts in your first post supplied by the battery manufacturer?
  2. What is location of the battery maker?
  3. Did the battery maker supply the charger?
  4. In (3) above, if the answer is "No", then what is location of Charger maker?

It does appear that somer charger suppliers sup[ply chargers which are suitable for Li-ion and Li-Polymer battery assemblies, Refer:

Battery Management

Just as well nobody was wearing that neckwarmer at the time of explosion.

Appreciate further advice.

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02/26/2008 5:22 AM

Hi Sparky

thanks again for your valuable comment. We have sent the batteries to supplier for inspection. The battery supplier source the chargers but they don't manufacture it. would charging li-po batteries with a li-ion charger be dangerous? Some li0ion chargers which charges one of our li-ion batteries makes a buzzing sound. what could be the reason?


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Re: LI-ION BATTERY-BLAST

02/11/2008 7:17 AM

By your own admission 'I charged it for more than its actual charging time'.*

It would appear you need an 'intelligent charger' (As Sparky says) to prevent this happening again.
I don't see how you can apportion any blame to the battery manufacturer..and there is no way you should attempt to use any batteries which have been stressed.

Having made one mistake...whatever you do...make sure you don't go and make matters worse by making another!

*see below

5.3.2. OverchargeNo explosion and no fireContinue to Charge the battery at 0.5C/16.8V after complete charge

I would draw your attention to the above... I'm not sure exactly what it means! I'd ask for a more detailed explanation of 0.5C/16.8v it doesn't specify a time period and I dunno what 0.5C is???? temperature??? Coulombs???? Any ideas guys?

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02/11/2008 8:25 AM

Del ½C is half the total capacity... So if the battery has a capacity of 1 Ahr then ½C is 0.5 Amps...

Most batteries usually specifiy that for continual over charge (re. trickle charge) the charging rate must be less than a tenth of Capacity to a twentieth of capacity...

So for a 1Ahr battery the most you should overcharge it is at a rate of 0.1 Amps or less...

For Lithium-ion I would leave them well alone and buy the versions with built in protection and charging circuits!!!

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02/11/2008 8:29 AM

Cheers...Ah yes...that was probably luking in the dark recesses of my brain somewhere behind the best mouse watching location and the fact that her at number 32 gives me tid bits

I'll probably have forgotten it again soon, but thanks for the temporary enlightenment.

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02/11/2008 8:28 AM

"C" refers to the current capacity of the battery. For example, if you look at the specifications given, you'll see that the battery is a 2000mAH battery - this is it's "C". For best (and safest) performance it is intended to be discharged at a rate no greater than 0.2C (or 400mA) and charged at a rate of 0.5C (or 1000mA) maximum. Constant current + constant voltage of 16.8V.

I read that spec as saying if the battery is charged at the recommended 0.5C / 16.8V for beyond the recommended 4 hours (I assume that to mean "indefinately") then there should be no fire and no explosion. Of course that doesn't necessarily mean the battery will emerge undamaged. Just that no one nearby will loose any skin.

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02/11/2008 8:39 AM

Cheers... it is coming back to me...I remember why I've always been irritated by the term (but them I am easily irritated) there is no consistent use of units...the capacity in Ah is being mixed with charge/or discharge current which is just A...

e.g. 0.5C is really 100mAh... so who stole the h... ok so I'm a grumpy old curmudgeon.

I konw it's industry standard nomenclature...but it's wrong and sloppy.

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02/11/2008 2:57 PM

I could have said it referred to the "c" in E=mc^2.

To an observer standing still, the battery wouldn't appear to finish charing within their lifetime!

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02/12/2008 5:15 AM

del

the charge and usage of battery was done strictly according to norms. i have been using this unit for 2-3 occasions. the heating unit was plugged on to the battery and was live while charging. by every means the protection and other supporting circuitory should act to complteley shut off the unit. my point is how can those fail?

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02/12/2008 9:09 AM

"...my point is how can those fail?..."

Because anything that CAN fail, WILL fail. Particularly electrical 'things'; I've got many electrical 'things' fresh and new out of the box that didn't work at all. Also possible the using during charging (if I read your information correctly) had a contribution to the failure. Hope nobody was hurt!

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02/12/2008 11:30 AM

And feel quite lucky this has not happened in the field!

This would have been a topic for a lawyer blog...

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Re: Li-Ion Battery-Blast

02/11/2008 11:18 PM

While many batteries are designed to be charged while on-line, such as a lead-acid or gel cell, but I wonder if the battery being "plugged in" to the load and then charged, could have caused the charger to mis-behave. I hope I understand the original setup.

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Re: Li-Ion Battery-Blast

02/12/2008 3:05 AM

Hi Victorvar,

Your cell pack is 2s1p (7.4V - 1500mAh) but the basic characteristic given is 4s1p (14.8V - 2000mAh) with max charge current of 0.5C(1000mAh). Looking at it the usage has exceeded the cell capability coz your are pumping 14.8V against 7.4V with current at 0.7C.

Furthermore, your safety circuit on detect overcharge at 4.3V which is cell already at danger area, since Li-ion or LiPo the top charge voltage is 4.2V. FYI, your circuit overdischarge is also fall below cell chemistry limit, where Li-ion the lowest discharge voltage limit is 2.5V and in practice we normally use 3.0V and safety circuit cut-off at 2.7V.

For me, i only use 100% DOD, 2.5V when I'm characterizing my raw material in my Lipo cell development, BTW I'm LiPo manufacturing, for manufacturing and cell capacity calculation I only use 3.0V.


So please check out you test data and cell spec and update us so that it would be clearer on how your testing being conducted.

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02/12/2008 7:46 AM

One other thing to add to this is that LiPo batteries have to have each cell individually charged and the cells monitored so that no individual cell is overcharged. As others have pointed out in a battery pack with multiple cells the weak cell will still be charging when another cell is overcharged. As you found out, LiPo cells are quite intolerant of overcharging, or overvolt charging, as Sufian has pointed out.

So my first question is, what type of charger are you using? If you're not using a proper charger for a LiPo battery you are begging for a fire.

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Re: Li-Ion Battery-Blast

02/12/2008 5:00 AM

I am given to understanding that LiPo cells are the most difficult to charge correctly and are not really available as AA or AAA for the general public for that reason I believe.

They need a very intelligent charger that monitors their every move so to say, your charger just sounds very dangerous to me indeed (as it appears to several others as well).

Surely there is a chip manufacturer around that can supply a chip to do all the complicated bits and pieces?

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Re: Li-Ion Battery-Blast

02/12/2008 5:03 AM

As Sufian noted...

You state your battery is 2S-7.4V yet give specs for a 4S-14.8V.

With all the good info here one thing I failed to see was any mention of 'cell balance' (meaning the individual voltage of the 2 cells are no longer equal or within a tolerable level)

Even with the proper charge equipment & settings,if or more likely when, the 2 cells making up your pack become unbalanced.One of the cells will fail.

There are some dramatic tales and videos/photos of lost vehicles,homes,fire damage from Li batteries on RCGroups.com in the Battery forum.

Stay safe.

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Re: Li-Ion Battery-Blast

02/12/2008 5:10 AM

hi Ppl

many thanks for your comment. and i should say analysis were spot on. My apologies!!! spec sheet i provided was for a different version. this battery is 2s1p prismatic cell type. i have been using this battery for quite a while now and have charged and discharged atleast 6 times. one of the two cell seem to have blown and have destroyed the outer casing.other one seems fine.

What is DOD?

specs

operating voltage ; 7.4V

Minimum; 6V

battery capacity ;

nominal 1500 mAH minimum 1400mAh

discharge current

peak discharge current 600mA average peak duration 0.2mins

continious discharge current 500mAH

charge data

charge current

min: 900mAH max 1500mAH

charge time 3hrs

charge type CC/CV

Operating temperature

nominal 5deg

min -5 deg

max 15 deg

safety device

overcharge /over discharge/short circuit protection


guys!! i really appreciate you valuable input

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