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Accurpress not developing max pressure

02/12/2008 9:04 AM

We have an Accurpress 713010 130 ton 10' press brake. Yesterday, we were forming .250 thick 5052-H32 Aluminium, ~118" long using .250 radius top punch and 1.5" wide standard 90° V-die. We were able to get our first piece to form up to ~100°, but the machine stopped delivering pressure on subsequent bends. We weren't even able to get a 10" wide piece of the same material to form at all - it would pinch but not generate more than 550 PSI line pressure or about 20 tons ram pressure.

Here comes the odd part - if we put in a piece of .090 AL, it would not only form it, but at the bottom of the stroke it would generate pressure beyond what it was giving us on the .250 AL... line pressure would go to about 1200 psi. If we use no material and bottom out the ram at full pressure, we are able to achieve the machine max of 3800 PSI line pressure and the full 130 tons ram pressure. We did this while checking the overpressure relief valve. But still, no matter what program settings we use (y-target vs. ton target) we can't get the machine to generate the full pressure.

Has anyone else had this problem or a similar one? Is there something we've overlooked?

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Re: Accurpress not developing max pressure

02/13/2008 4:14 AM

Hi,

I have never worked with brake presses. However, when the press tool applications I am familiar with there are 2 cycles of operation the press goes through. The "speed" cycle where the press closes and the "load" cycle where full pressure is applied. This is done by the use of a high and lower pressure circuit i.e. 2 valves controlling 2 circuits with different pressure relief settings. (Check your hydraulic drawings)

I am not sure what tells the machine to switch between high and low pressure. In our systems it's a relief valve pilot operating the high pressure circuit valve.

Maybe it's possible that in your system the switch is done by cylinder position. Then for the thicker section of metal the cylinder is not making the switch to initiate the load cycle.

P.S. I'm not an expert in hydraulic presses - only the tooling that goes between them. Some of the guys out there may have a better idea.

J

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Re: Accurpress not developing max pressure

02/13/2008 11:32 AM

Sounds like a high pressure leak around piston seal from pressure stroke to return stroke side in cylinder.............could be you blew a seal there.

From your description I get the idea that a bottomed out piston shows secondary side at high pressure...how could that be if non pressured side is tank return at atmosphere?

If not free vented return then the valving sequence is the problem.

MR. GUY

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