Transmitting Brain Waves to the Internet?

Yes, by typing. Just like you did. But, brain waves, or electrical signals, are blocked by all the shielding the FCC requires on computers and peripherals in order to limit EMI.

Besides, everyone knows it's the TV that the government uses to read your thoughts...

Before we geniuses rush to make fun of this post, it might be worthy of some extra consideration. It's just barely possible that by the title "MS" this is in reference to a person suffering from Multiple Sclerosis and the question is a legitimate one about PC input devices for the handicapped.

If this is the case then, yes, there are input devices specially designed for people with limited use of their hands, etc. Unfortunately I'm not up to speed on these. Anyone? If nothing else, some searching on Google for such things would be a good start.

The pictures in #3 appear to be EEG type devices. Understanding how different parts of the brain react to stimuli is probably an essential step to training it to reverse the process. People can train their brain to alter physiology, and feedback devices can help this. Some prosthetic limbs can be actuated by retraining muscles in other parts of the body. Merely thinking about these muscles can act as a trigger.

Maybe you can google some more ?

Guest,

I mean this as a kindly correction. Please don't use the word "handicapped" for those with a disability. It's offensive to those with disabilities and serves to marginalize them.

Thanks.

At present there just such a project underway lead by the 'March of Dimes' and funded by DARPA...

Can you help me read about their efforts? David Quey (206) 362-4095 or dcquey@earthlink.net

The topic seems to have a lot of conspiracy related stuff on the web. Here is one place to start reading, and Warwick's Wiki profile.

IBVA is short for Interactive Brainwave Visual Analyzer. A system created and refined through over 28 years of research. The IBVA provides easy real time analysis and intricate interactive control of brainwave conditions for professionals as well as the curious. Put simply, the IBVA reads brainwave activity in real time and allows you to use them to trigger movies, music, home automation devices, images, sounds, other software or almost any electronically addressable device through its MIDI, serial and Expansion Pak features. With the network and modem features of the IBVA, brainwaves can be analyzed and control equipment from anywhere in the world.

For more information please visit the IBVA Technologies web site: http://www.TheMindOS.com or e-mail if you have questions: Tek@IBVA.com

That's a really odd website. It has a sort of 'new-age' feel to it because of the applications they've found - art/meditation/fighting. It left me with the impression that they weren't totally serious. That's probably unfair, but the presentation and applications left me slightly puzzled. I'm not sure that the original questioners interest was medical, but that aspect is interesting all the same. Whatever IBVA are 'at' it's an interesting site Ace. (btw, I got to this portal with the given reference, but also checked what came up with just IBVA googled)

To All, Please, if you chose, check out Brain Gate Systems. Fascinating study.

Dragon

Cyberkinetics Braingate System is interesting. An implanted device is a good long term solution (if the application is health). I wonder how certain they can be that an implant would work for an individual - even if two people have the same outward disability, their brains might be behaving differently. That's a bit of a wild guess, but I was was thinking maybe feedback system such as that mentioned by Ace, could help Neurosurgeons assess how suited a patient was for an implant. It would be better than diving in with invasive surgery.

IBM launched a device this week. initially for gamers, but does what you ask. i would imagine it will be relatively easy to develop apps for if it is commercially available, used by games developers, and relatively affordable.

link below is to the bbc news site where i read about it.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7254078.stm

Kris what a wonderful observation, it is VERY eloquently states the issues of brain functions in just a few well chosen words; it rates a double A 1 score Sparky, please take note.

As a person whose life is supossed to have ended when the tandem's duals went over me i have lived for the past 38 years with the very issues you clearly present.

I cannot recall the numer of times that i have heard the words you dont look disabled, or have a really hard time keeping the very private jokes about the mentality of persons asking me why don't act like a person with a brain injury? this is usually heard after i have more than successfully done; or while i am doing something that medical wisdom, legal bafflegafflegabers, or insurance lawyers, dictate i am by their proscriptions totally unable or inapable of achieiving any levels of success within.

i have a small network of persons i associate with, they, just as I are a.b.i. owners. some of those acquaintances are able to "perform" as if they aren't "freaks" still others are or have been rendered to near vegetaive states, totally dependent on others for the simplest to the most complex of tasks reqquired for daily activity.

the picture you draw so well shows that while they and i are technically in the same condition we are so very different, our brains are quite capable of presenting cognitive awareness. the levels at which they function at as opposed to those i function at and within is what sets they and i apart.

it is indeed regretably unfortunate that yoour humane and insightful reply has not been posted to the directors of the various brain injury "support groups" operating through out the western world., nor is it likely to ever be seen beyond tyhe borders of this C4R magazines readers.

thank you so much, today was one of those very bad days when the depressive dog has been hovering over my head, my own dog Buckster true to his breeds' border collie heritage been warming my feet as i read your post and you by extension posted a reply was most appreciated and like Buckster heart warming.

again thank you

john a.k.a 'da ber

john a.k.a ''da ber

wow, that was inspriring ( I mean it). As a child I was paralyzed from a medical accident during surgery for something supposed to be simple (tonsils out). Since I was still growing, with therapy I learned to reprogram my thoughts and walk, although I use different nerves/muscles than most. Internet thought-activation is a different form of same concept. Hats off to the folks who are working on it!

The answer is Yes, at least in laboratory conditions. A few weeks ago I read in a science magazine (that I cannot re-locate now), that a monkey with a brain implant controlled a fairly complex artificial arm via the internet, successfully. I just hope, somebody else remembers where it was printed.

This looks like the story.

What are you trying to transmit?

You already typed some of your conscious thoughts as text. Brain scans can say which part of your brain is active and this information can be transmitted over the internet. If you are asking about transmitting something that allows a model of your emotions and intellect to be created that will behave much as you do - that, like a full understanding of how the brain works, is rather a long way off.

to physicist with respect for your knowledge and genuine interest in the post about transmitting brain waves via the internet. there is and i suppose will be for some time a bit of a stir about just what constitutes cognitive thought. the idea that a thought can be transmitted via the internet is i am sure f has not already happened soopn will be but i ask you to respond to this question an again it posed with respect not as a insult to your intelligence or a smart asses retort.

i mentioned being the owner of a a.b.i. the fact is i have had several open and closed skull traumas, during the last few years i have become acquainted with the post trauma levents of a gentleman called peter hurkos, that his story of life with a a.b.i. is incredible cannot be denied.

niether has the wonders of medicine using whatever devices that the field has at its' disposal been able to positively identiofy and deny the repeated positive and negative " messages sent and transmitted by this " madman lunatic fraud dingbat or whatever each of his detractors has or does decide to label him been able to deny his thoughts are transmitted without benefit of electronic devices or other transmission reception supports available. it seems interesting that this simingly insignificant man has proven that thought can be transmitted from person to person without the assitance of a internat or devices attached / attaracted to the internet.

it is sad to see the limit to which the human race is willing to allow itself and the wonderful capavilities with which it has been endowed by its creator so willing not to accept the gifts already available yet ever ready to use whatever exopense may be mounted to set the achieving of a goal not seeing that the same has already been met.

'da ber

CR4 bloggers' brainwaves are already.

YES I DO IT EVERY DAY . DON'T YOU FEEL THEM ? ARE YOU TELLING ME YOU DON'T FEEL THEM ? PUT YOUR HEAD RIGHT ON THE MONITOR , CLOSE YOUR EYES AND CONCENTRATE REAL HARD . IF YOU DON"T FEEL MY BRAIN WAVES AFTER TWO HOURS OF HARD CONCENTRATION .CALL ME

There once was a man

With wires in his head.

And all that he dreamed,

Came out on a screen

At the end of his bed.

- a poem I wrote years and years ago probably inspired by reading too much Theodore Sturgeon Science fiction. Wim Wenders made a nice movie that pivoted on this sort of potential titled Until the End of the World.

They do seem long interested in this sort of thing at Duke. I believe that they had some designated psychics there who were last resort communicators with astronauts in the event of radio failure.

Recently I wondered if there was a way to determine what dreams I might have had that came from outside of my experience and life and were evidence of other intelligent life transmissions.

What if when you are sleeping a holographically encoded cosmic ray hits your retina?

Is that the dream that came from the other universe and a single souls lust for mind touching? -Spun surviving out of the black hole that licks in whips a wormhole throwing dark matter at our silenced and sleeping eyes?

Seems we sometimes ask for too much detail as if we already know that life is full of awesome real pathways to knowledge and still want more little details than are realistic. At some point it is better to understand feeling, than thinking, and know that you are the thing that combines them for real life, and real wisdom.

Sleepwalking is easier to understand, than a dream from my experience.

I have tried to transmit brainwaves to the internet for quite some time but with no success. Some of you will surmise WHY I can't transmit brainwaves, but that's another story....