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Gas Panel

03/21/2008 6:47 AM

I have a 316 ST/ST gas panel that is supplying nitrogen to a mechanical seal. In the panel there is the supply (3 bar) which then travels through a filter, regulator with pressure gauge so we can see our supply pressure then through 2 flow meters and on to a pressure switch before going to a non-return valve then to the seal. My problem is that when there is a leak created at the seal we lose our pressure and get alarmed by the pressure switch which is set at 2 bar falling but when we re-pressurise is takes up to 3 hours for the 3 bar supply to get to the pressure switch to stop the alarm. The pipework is 1/4" and there are lots of bends and 90 degree angles that the gas would have to travel through but surely this wouldn't take so long. Initally we thought it was a faulty switch but after testing it off the system found this was not the case. I put a gauge in place of the pressyre switch and watched from the 3 bar supply to the secondary gauge and it took forever to treach the required pressure of 2.8 bar we need at the seal. The seal is used on an agitator mixing powder for a pharmaceutical plant.

Any feedback welcome.

Dev

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Re: Gas Panel

03/21/2008 11:46 AM

I am thinking that the non return valve is leaking by, but eventually seats..

Something is leaking somewhere. It should not take 3 hours to pressure up.

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Re: Gas Panel

03/22/2008 1:10 PM

Hi, dev!

After experiencing the alarm, can you re-pressurize at greater than 3 bar while bypassing the 3bar shutoff switch until the system normalizes in order to reduce the time required to reset?

Then as it approaches normal pressures, your system can velocity-reduce by gradually diminishing the re-pressurizing supply.

A controller system regulating the constant pressure by utilizing a pressure feedback loop could be set to kick in as soon as it detects initial pressure loss, and then would automatically initiate, record, and regulate the approach to full pressure in a gentle manner once it approaches 3 bar.

You're probably already aware of probable causes, but monitoring the records might give you a better clue about when/under what circumstances the pressure reductions are initiated.

Mark

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Re: Gas Panel

03/23/2008 5:05 PM

Thanks mark. I am beginning to think that the seal is leaking more at different stages of our customers cycle. I do also agree that we need a greater supply of gas through the system. Dev

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