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Weather Conditions

04/09/2008 2:29 AM

We know water from sea surface evaporates with solar heat and make cloud at certain heights , wind makes cloud to earth surface where coolness makes rain.

what could be acceptable temp of sea water and pressure on water surface to evaporate and reach that cloud height? Has anyone read anywhere the data?

If I am wrong in assuming the above, kindly correct me

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Re: Weather Conditions

04/09/2008 4:09 PM

I haven't looked into this very deeply yet, but it seems to me to be an application of the ideal gas law.

You could also look up evapotranspiration or hydorlogic cycle at www.theweatherprediction.com.

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04/09/2008 4:21 PM

Water can evaporate at any temperature. Even ice on the poles evaporates. It is due to the energy of the sun on the surface. The increase temperature of the water will increase the rate of evaporation. The height that water vapor needs to rise to form a cloud depends on the saturation of the air and temperature of the air. Fog is nothing but a cloud at ground level. The change in Atmospheric pressure is not great enough so has little effect on evaporation rate. There is no acceptable temperature unless you want to call it the boiling point 212° F.

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Re: Weather Conditions

04/10/2008 2:58 AM

Hi,

search for a "Mollier i-x diagram", (in thermodynamics book)

French 18th century Mollier did solve this by measurement of equilibra between evaporated, fluid and solid status as a function of pressure and temperature.

This is at conditions far away from ideal gas: the steam may be wet or near condensation.

The process of evaporation is to be considered separately as the first step of evaporation is a molecule of sufficient velocity leaving the fluid (or the reverse: a gas molecule hitting the surface). As these molecules have very small distances (mean free path length) before hitting its neighbours it is not likely that it can escape into the surrounding gas or steam but will re-condense or stay very near the evaporating surface.

This situation is changed by wind velocity which carries away the freshly evaporated molecules. (Same situation on drying clothes).

So in short:

you need high enough temperature or low enough pressure to get efficient evaporation, some evaporation is existing at any temperature. At high enough temperature you get boiling (vapor-pressure as function of temperature above ambient pressure).

You need wind to carry away the evaporates.

At elevations up in atmosphere clouds are forming where the solubility of water in air is lowered and no longer capable of holding in solution this water (by cooling down and lower pressure) that droplets = condensing water is forming. The condensed droplets will refract the sunlight so we see white clouds.

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Re: Weather Conditions

04/10/2008 9:05 AM

It depends on the relative humidity of the air and the air temperature. Air typically cools about 3.5 deg F (if I remember rightly) per 1000 ft altitude. As the air cools, the relative humidity increases until it reaches 100 percent (the temperature reaches the dew point) at which point it condenses into clouds.

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