EUROPE USER GROUPE

One vote from Hungary…

In England I think we are stuck in the mid-atlantic!!!

One foot in Europe the other in America - hedging our bets I guess

This is what I think to a separate Europe group...

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I thought the idea was to unite the engineering minds. To bring us together.

As has shown in history division on the bases of race, national origin, religion or for any other reason results in contention.

So I say no.

Your not alone we are all here with you. We need to think as to being part of this world. CR4 world

Good OZZB. I agree with you fully

Whats the problem with present CR4, why need separate group?

i am all for it, there is difference in European and american voltages also some laws regarding safety and use of electrical gear and such are different, such items could be addressed in an europe group

Hi

what can be solved by a local user group only?

If you define your necessities and these cannot be discussed in this forum then let us try a local meeting?, forum?, what else?

I like very much to come to Italy - anywhere from Palermo to Como - beautiful.

This forum is much faster in solving many problems compared to travel and visit.

RHABE

It may be due language problems. I think few europeans know english so they are not in this group.I am Indian I know there are few other Indians who also participate in discussions.It is because we learn english form school days and our education is in english, may be not as good as a Oxford English.

I personally see no advantages over what we already have.

If someone could give some convincing argument for a European version, I am prepared to read and consider it.

Up to now, in this Blog, there have been no arguments for a European version that in any way appeal to me.....

In fact I foresee problems of going "Europe", personally I would miss the good interaction with the "rest" of the world!!!!!

Not all good ideas come from the USA, nor do they come alone from anywhere else either!!!

I will continue to read this blog, but will probably not see any further reason to contribute, but time will tell on that one!!

Why?

" Nos autem, cui mundus est patria velut piscibus equor, " Dante - De Vulgari Eloquentia

Cheers

Vincenzo / Toronto

No, definitely not although I am in Europe and think "European".

If any European wants to have a specific opinion considering conditions in Europe he can put it in his question and he will get it from all other able to give the answer.

From my point of view it is quite interesting to know how engineers from other continents think. It is also very interesting to look at the comments which thread is considered as "of value" how many "visitors" and how many answers for a question. How many of the answers are question oriented and so on.

But there are issues that are Europe specific, that would be better handled in a Europe group

Please post a list of these! Without we cannot discuss.

(I am European too!)

RHABE

Hi Rhabe, what do you think about meeting industrial partners for EC project? As you know to have access to EC funds it's necessary to join firms operating in different european countries and have a serious research project. I work with research projects all over the world and sometimes a project needs a lot of money to be developed...

Hi Guest,

with this you are right, but this can be posted in open forum and then the interested European contributors can join.

If you are inside a company that has experience in these largely bureaucratic processes where the results are often only by political decisions, why not, lets try.

I am willing to put my personal share into it. (No company, no organisation).

RHABE

Yes, there may be Europe specific issues.

But if those are the issues of being proud of, no harm in putting for all world wide.

If those are something, you should be ashammed of, you are right.

For any issues, any person world wide can suggest a good solution. Thus, it is always better to have everything open.

i do not mind to put it in the open but for me it is more an issue of tracebility.

For once a guest has a good point.

You will hear that very seldom from me as usually completely ignore guest posts....!!!

I personally completely disagree on that point. Sorry about that!!

I feel that the beauty of CR4 is its "Worldliness".......

I get "angles" on problems that I would never have thought about with a purely "European" or "American" or "Indian" or "Chinese" or any single mind set.

We need the mixture as it is now, it works well for us.....I am not against any "good" change, I just feel that this is not one of them.....

You can have a "European" version for you personally if you feel it will be so advantageous..... But do not expect me to bother much with it, ever....

Bravo Andy, my good friend.

Andy, Great comment by you. CR4 is churning the minds of all the engineers around the world. It is realy great class room for all us we learn many new things from our experts in different feild, so let it be as it is.

I think most of us agree that we need to retain our "Worldliness", as I put it in an earlier post........

Many thanks to all of the support (from around the World of course!) from within CR4....

We are our own "Region", the CR4 Region / Legion !!!

so you are against classifying? it would be easier to group discussion. i do not mind if there is not a seperate group but there should be a catagory for europe specific and american specific problems like regulations, and govermental issues.

I do not understand the reason. If there is a question related to either European or not European specs,regulations or what so ever it is very easy for the one mailing the question to declare his request as related to specific geographic region.

For instance : Hi, I am interested in the European Norm EN XXXY25 who's able to give me support?

I gave you a GA for this proper and correct answer.

Some of the CR4 users travel and work in any country that needs them, I did for many years, so reading "others people's mail" can be extremely beneficial indeed!!

Also, as an Engineer, I am "nosey" as to how other countries handle and regulate problems, sometimes completely different, but no less effective!!

This often gives me a new slant on items of my particular interest.....

but if it is all in one heap it may be difficult to dicern.

Some cataogories maybe usefull

Did you mean "discern"?

If yes, no I do not agree.......

I learned years ago on how to make decisions easily and quickly. I still have that ability, once learned never forgotten (Many thanks to the RN!)

Yes i Meant discern, and what has it to do with decision making?

it has to do with filing information, making it more easy to find.

categorizing makes forum threads more traceable

I simply do not agree......

If it happens, I feel that you might be quite lonely there too.....

I am a very discern-ing person!!

You aren't alone! I was born in Rome, and I'm living and working in Milan...

My skills: process engineer, very strong on evaporation plants.

Ciao