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Applications for 100-MVA Power

05/06/2008 12:26 AM

100 MVA

i want to know what is 100 MVA like is it like power to supply 10 homes , 100 homes.

I was told that the furnce ( EAF) i am looking to buy needs 100 MVA

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Re: 100 MVA give info

05/06/2008 1:42 AM

Hello tarik

100MVA is the power input required to operate that furnace.

Read more about it, complete with coloured pictures and explanation at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_arc_furnace

Reply here, if needed.

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05/06/2008 2:24 AM

thank you

100 MVA is at the transfurmer , what power i need from the local electrice company

what is the power need from the local power company .

also I like to know suppliers of Electrice arc furnace

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05/06/2008 2:45 AM

Hello again tarik

You will require a 120MVA transformer minimum for the Furnace operation.

Additional transformer capacity will be needed to run cranes, hoists, compressers, lighting and all extra apparatus, including cookhouse and/or housing for workers, which will be needed on or near the Site.

I cannot see your location, so have a look at (You will need to register at globalspecs): http://process-equipment.globalspec.com/SpecSearch/Suppliers/Manufacturing_Process_Equipment/Heating_Cooling_Equipment/Industrial_Furnaces?SrchItem=1&frmqry=Arc%20furnace&kqid=43628088

It would be normal to discuss your plans with the Electrical Engineer for your local Electric Supply Company, because they would need to make costly local alterations to their distribution network, before such a furnace of this type could be connected.

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05/06/2008 6:00 AM

G A 2 U Sparky Of course you provided the information needed, rather than simply answer his questions. BZ!

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Re: Applications for 100-MVA Power

05/06/2008 12:11 PM

Hello, Tarik.

The power needed by a typical home will vary with the location and standard of living. In my utility, we use a thumbrule of 5 KVA/house for homes with gas heat and 10 KVA for for homes with resistive or heat pump electric heating. Your arc furnace will require the power equivalent of 10,000 - 20,000 homes.

I strongly recommend you follow Sparkstation's guidance. This furnace and its auxiliary loads will require a high-tension line (probably 133 KV or higher) and a dedicated substation just for your facility. Keep in mind that, even at 33 KV to the furnace, your plant would require over 3,000 amperes. Designing that type of system is the job of a highly experienced power engineer.

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05/07/2008 7:21 AM

Maybe I am confused a bit but perhaps you can clear it up.

Here at work we use 3 phase power and it requires a 45kva transformer to run a 100 amp panel. Is the calc different when household current is involved because its single phase?

Since I have a 225 amp main on my house I would have assumed that it had somewhere near abouts a 100kva transformer on the pole. I do a lot of work with commercial electrical but just minor stuff when it comes to residential.

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05/07/2008 10:47 AM

In most commercial and industrial installations, a dedicated transformer supplies each facility. Also, most of the equipment is running at the same time (coincident load). Therefore, the transformer is sized to supply the expected demand of a full operation, with all machines running together.

For residential service, one transformer supplies several homes. You and your neighbors will probably not all run your hairdryer at the same time, and your air conditioners will not all be running at the same time (non-coincident load). Even in an all-electric home, the thermostats for the oven, water heater, air conditioner and clothes dryer cycle on & off at various times while running, so the total demand is usually less than the sum of each unit demand. Because of the load variation, residential services are WAY oversized compared to actual usage. For example, the total demand for an electric range, an electric clothes dryer and a residential air conditioner, all running simultaneously, is less than 15 KVA. Since they don't all run together, peak demand is usually under 10 KVA. Your 225A service is good for 54 KVA at 240 volts.

The utility designs its equipment (generators, substations, lines, distribution transformers, etc.) to meet expected coincident peak demand, not connected service capacity. For commercial/industrial customers, the load factor (% of capacity in use) is much higher than residential, so the supply side must be built for more capacity.

The one time when the utility can get into trouble is during recovery from an outage. I was recently restored service to a 600-unit apartment complex after an extended outage on a cold night. All of the apartments have electric heat. As soon as the power was restored, all 600 heat pumps kicked on simultaneously. The demand was so high for the first 30 minutes I thought I still had a low-grade fault on the line!

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05/07/2008 11:49 AM

Thanks for that explanation.

It has often confused me as I said i am not used to working with the mains side of residential electricity.

Its terrible to get so one sided in ones Field.

I give you a good answer for your explanation.

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05/07/2008 1:31 PM

Thanks. Your explanation is appreciated. GA2U

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Re: Applications for 100-MVA Power

05/07/2008 9:01 AM

The furnace transformer rating is 100 Mva .You will also need a power transformer to cater to the entire factory including power supply to this furnace transformer.At what voltage are u getting the power?

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05/09/2008 4:23 PM

It can easily feed 20,000 homes comfortably, assuming the demand for each home is 5KVA at 1.0 Power factor.But at one location for an EAF, you need an enormous amount of electrical equipment for a substation, step down transformers etc and other associated control equipment.

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