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Learning from the Dutch: Are 10,000 year-spec. levees possible for the US?

06/19/2008 8:49 AM

Was watching the news and witnessed a group of hard-working women in Iowa, about my mom's age (I'm in my 40's), sandbagging levees for the 2nd time in their lifetimes. They did this back in 1993 as well. Led Zeppelin's song, "When the Levees Break", was playing in my head once again in recent memory, as my heart went out to those folks going through this experience.

In my part of the US (Upstate NY, Hudson-Valley's Capital Region), the Dutch were a strong influence during colonial times, and many place names like "Gansevoort", "Rensselaer" and "Guilderland" live on, along with their architectural legacy. I think we might be able to learn from them once again.

I know in the 50's that Holland had a national flood crisis, and as a result, came up with a world-class system of flood protection that was designed to withstand the worst possible flood that could occur once every 10,000 years. What a feat of engineering!

Is something like this possible for the US? Has the US Army Corp. already consulted with the Dutch engineers who worked on this project from the 50's? Seems like there is something to learn from their experience.

Looking forward to what others share on this topic.

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06/20/2008 4:46 AM

Hi april05,

I worked on some aspects of this amazing feat of engineering from 1990 to 1995, and it must be one of the greatest engineering works of all time. Where I was working was called "Neltje-Jan, on the huge one mile long sluis gates, where everything is controlled by hydraulics. So now the whole of the Dutch coast is one long defence against the sea, and where I was living near Rotterdam the ground level was 14m below sea level!

We here in England could do with flood defencies like this as last year we had some terrible flooding, also I believe that some places within the US could also do with the same! I remember watching New Orleans on the TV news, a terrible tragedy.

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06/20/2008 8:26 AM

Hi Spencer,

Thanks for sharing that.

Hopefully some of the folks at the Army Corp of Engineers, and their contracting companies, are following this thread. Maybe they'll even get in touch with you for some possible consulting work!

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06/20/2008 8:34 AM

The Dutch did not support the American revolution and their influence diminished greatly after the Battle of Brooklyn Heights. "New Amsterdam" became "New York".

Nevertheless, the canal system north of Albany to the Great Lakes was an interesting engineering accomplishment before railroads.

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