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foul smell from vent pipe after new septic tank installed

08/31/2008 2:59 PM

Thank you for taking the time to read and respond.

Here's the scenario:

1) Old house with septic/indoor plumbing added at a time when PVC was available...that's all I know of the timeframe

2) There is a three inch PVC vent immediately outside the house running up exterior to roofline...ten feet from toilet and ten/20 feet from septic tank

3) never smelled...I have been the neighbor many years

4) I bought the house one year ago

5) 4 months ago I had the septic tank pumped out completely

6) 2 months after that I got hooked up to community sewer..a new system just installed in the town [very very small town]

7) that means they crushed the old tank in place and buried it..it was empty relatively speaking...and installed a new one slightly closer to the house (cement 1000 gallon)

8) it has been used 20-25 times in 2-3 months...only light use while we are working on the house

9) immediately after new install of tank the vent pipe started to smell foul

10) and with hardly anything in the tank?

11) the community sewer holding tank is 1/4 mile down the road

11A) I did my house same way same contractors same week...no problems...at least i assume they did it the same way!

12) anyone have a guess as to why the vent is smelling now and never before???

13) I vented it higher and now i just smell it on the other side of the house!

14) how high can I go and still draw effectively? it is currently about 18" past the porch roofline

15) can anyone think of anything they may have done wrong do make this smell happen now?

a cracked exit pipe- would that cause the vent to smell bad?

16) do vent filters work and would this vent be a candidate for one?

THANK YOU!

terry

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Re: foul smell from vent pipe after new septic tank installed

08/31/2008 4:28 PM

This may be a stretch----Is the tank empty? Try filling it--there may be a trap that is dry because of it and you may be venting the public system through a spot that should be submerged.

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Re: foul smell from vent pipe after new septic tank installed

08/31/2008 6:39 PM

I'm with Kilgore Trout on this too, a dry trap.

Living in a small town myself I'd suggest have the town fire tank truck add water to the new sewer tank. Then if the problem persists you are not out the cost.

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Re: foul smell from vent pipe after new septic tank installed

08/31/2008 7:16 PM

Hello tzz

Your community sewer pipe requires vents at definite distances, to vent sewer gas from the pipe/s and tank/s.

The vents are normally vertical pipes in the road area, which are around 15 feet high, sometimes with a small bird excluder in the top of that vent pipe.

There should be at least one vent pipe in that distance between the community holding tank and your home, and often these community sewer vent pipes are designed to look like a standard lamp, or are fitted against a lamp pole - see picture at left please.

What has probably happened, is that the sewer gas (eye-watering choking stuff, and very unhealthy) is generated in the community tank, and rises to the highest point, requiring a

You will not have any water trap between the community tank and your vent pipe, and your vent pipe is to enable the water trap to remain full of water in the porcelain WC in your toilet, after the flush operation.

Without the external high vent pipe at your home, when the WC was flushed, the contents being hurtled down the sewer pipe would suck the water seal out of the U-tube inverted siphon (in your WC) which seals out the sewer gas from the sewer pipe and everyone else's sewer pipes, from coming into your toilet room.

The contractors who installed the community sewer and/or your local Authority who engaged them should be contacted at once, and it is really best to see the Engineer for the Local Authority, and ask that a vent pipe be installed in the roadway area, as it should have been, to vent the sewer gas before it arrives at your home.

If all else fails, you could install a large porous charcoal filter on the top of your pipe, for typical odor filters, please see picture at left, obtainable from: http://www.septicsolutions.net/store/septicodor_ventfilter.htm

In a community situation, you may have to replace the charcoal element frequently, at your own cost, and that is not fair.

Advise your progress, or lack thereof, with

Kind Regards....

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Re: foul smell from vent pipe after new septic tank installed

08/31/2008 11:50 PM

Hi tzz,

You have received some good answers. Are you saying that you had to put in a new tank to connect to the sewer? I never heard of that. Sewers around here eliminate the need for a tank. I think somebody doesn't know what they are doing. Good luck!

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Re: foul smell from vent pipe after new septic tank installed

09/02/2008 6:24 AM

Sounds like the city sewer district didn't want to build a system large enough to handle the flow. Rather than put in a large main pipe now that wouldn't be used near capacity they put in a minimum sized pipe for existing usage.
Or maybe they are actually thinking ahead and anticipating a large growth spurt and requiring everyone to have temporary holding tanks installed so when the city does grow beyond the sewers capabilities there won't be a problem.

We've been using holding tanks more and more in the St. Louis area. Its either that or when we do a development they have to replace the existing sewer system for miles instead of a few hundred feet. The existing systems just are not big enough to handle todays waste productions. So we have to provide retention even for the waste system. And on large projects it gets released at low flow times of the night.

As to your stink problem it does sound like you have a dry trap or no trap.

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Re: foul smell from vent pipe after new septic tank installed

09/01/2008 7:06 AM

I have to drop a one of those spiked shaped fishing wieghts down a couple of my vent pipes each year.

A crust seems to form over the bottom of the vent pipe if the up stairs bath rooms are not used often. They dry out espically in a drought and then the gas is force back into the house.

One crust was so thick I had to use a steel rod with a rope on it and drop it several times. Caution that if you have a cast iron system not to get aggressive and break a hole in the 90 at the bottom of the vent pipe. You will have a great stink then .

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09/01/2008 9:15 PM

Please try to not drop that pole in there again.

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09/01/2008 9:53 PM

I agree.

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Re: foul smell from vent pipe after new septic tank installed

09/01/2008 1:38 PM

Dear Sir/Madam: Have you considered, you may have a small dead animal or bird in the vent pipe. Take a Garden Hose up to the top of vent pipe, While water is running go down to bottom see if the water you are putting in is getting to the bottom. If it is or not, Gives you an indication if Vent is Plugged, Partly Plugged or Cleared. Hope This helps your Situation. Retired Troubleshooter, Carl.

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