Previous in Forum: 12v to charge 6v battery   Next in Forum: Electricity from a Water Pump
Close
Close
Close
8 comments
Rate Comments: Nested
Commentator

Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Waterford, Southern Ireland
Posts: 74

Wind Turbine Blades

09/21/2008 3:13 PM

What configuration and design of blades on a wind turbine gives the most torque at low speeds. I know that 3 aerofoil shape blades are typically used on wind turbines that require high speed. I am not neccessarily looking for high speed but high torque with low wind. I am driving a hydraulic pump with the turbine.

Is there any way of roughly calculating the shaft horse power from the size and design of the blades. Or if I said that I wanted around 10 hp from the tubine shaft from about 15 mph wind what size and design would the blades need to be?

Is there any advantage using a turbine like they used in the early days for pumping water?

All sugggestions welcome.

Register to Reply
Interested in this topic? By joining CR4 you can "subscribe" to
this discussion and receive notification when new comments are added.
Power-User

Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 141
Good Answers: 15
#1

Re: Wind Turbine Blades

09/22/2008 12:08 AM

To calculate the total kinetic energy of the area swept by the wind turbine, simply determine the kinetic energy of the "tube" of air going through the turbine. That is KE=0.5*M*V*V where V is the average wind velocity and M is the mass flow of air through the swept area. Then, for a rough order of magnitude, assume an efficiency of 15% for a 2- or 3-bladed horizontal axis turbine.

A 2-bladed turbine is actually the most efficient, but for operation in low winds, the starting torque of a three-bladed turbine is lower and the vibrational characteristics more favorable.

All of this is working off of vague memories from several years ago.

Register to Reply
Guru
Popular Science - Biology - New Member Hobbies - Musician - New Member APIX Pilot Plant Design Project - Member - New Member Hobbies - CNC - New Member Fans of Old Computers - ZX-81 - New Member

Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Centurion, South Africa
Posts: 3921
Good Answers: 97
#2

Re: Wind Turbine Blades

09/22/2008 2:24 AM

A wind mill (water pumping turbine) is designed to start pumping with little wind.

To prevent it from running too fast under high winds the centre of the turbine is offset on the swivel point. The effect is then that the wind wheel is forced sideways when the air flow is high and thus limits facing area.

__________________
Never do today what you can put of until tomorrow - Student motto
Register to Reply
Power-User

Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 141
Good Answers: 15
#4
In reply to #2

Re: Wind Turbine Blades

09/22/2008 3:24 PM

Very familiar with them. They work very well, though do give up a lot of efficiency. They also make a lot of noise.

In a remote location, or a location where noise was not important, the old Aeromotor would be a good choice for a hydraulic pump.

Register to Reply
Anonymous Poster
#3

Re: Wind Turbine Blades

09/22/2008 9:39 AM

Hello, I work for WindEnergy7.com and we have several different implementations of the three bladed horizontal wind turbines that we sell. More blades creates drag and turbulance. Also you need to run a turbine slow at or under 400 RPM is ideal. So, this is why we use direct drive PMA generators that are designed to make power at slow speeds of 400 RPM or less, this increases life of turbine parts, keeps down vibration, and makes less noise. When you think of turbine blade design, realize that the length of the blades gives you more leverage to the shaft. That's why these three bladed designs are superior to vertical turbines. Vertical has backside drag and not much leverage to the shaft and it creates a wind obstacle where a single blade custs into wind harnessing it without disrupting the power direction of the wind. HTH.

<>WindEnergy7.com

Wind Power Home Systems

Register to Reply
Commentator

Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Waterford, Southern Ireland
Posts: 74
#5
In reply to #3

Re: Wind Turbine Blades

09/22/2008 3:49 PM

Hi , does your company supply inverters etc ?

Could you contact me directly on my email please (michael@roof2000.com)

I have a special design of generater that I would like to discuss with you .

Register to Reply
Power-User
Hobbies - CNC - New Member United States - Member - New Member

Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Mid-West USA
Posts: 498
Good Answers: 28
#6
In reply to #3

Re: Wind Turbine Blades

09/23/2008 7:00 AM

I looked on the maps and my location shows a 2 for southeast Illinois. Is that sufficient for wind power? I have close to 30 acres. Most of it is wooded. How close does the wind mill need to be to the house without the need to oversize the supply lines? How much and what type of maintenance is there for your set up?

Register to Reply
Power-User

Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 141
Good Answers: 15
#7
In reply to #6

Re: Wind Turbine Blades

09/24/2008 3:26 PM

I'm not sure what a "2" means. Is it increasing wind on a 1 to 5 basis? A 1 to 10? Or is it a decreasing basis where 1 would be the best and 5 (or 10) the worst? It all depends on which wind maps you are looking at - and there are a lot of different ones.

Register to Reply
Associate
Engineering Fields - Construction Engineering - New Member United States - Member - New Member Hobbies - Hunting - New Member

Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Rocky mountains U.S.
Posts: 51
Good Answers: 4
#8
In reply to #6

Re: Wind Turbine Blades

02/18/2009 7:23 PM

If you have to set a wind turbine to far away from the house try compressed air from the turbine to an air motor to make electricity.you can go a long distance with less cost.

__________________
Most problems have simple low tech solutions
Register to Reply
Register to Reply 8 comments
Copy to Clipboard

Users who posted comments:

Anonymous Poster (1); Common cents (1); Hendrik (1); miik999 (1); osborne83 (3); The Mechanic (1)

Previous in Forum: 12v to charge 6v battery   Next in Forum: Electricity from a Water Pump

Advertisement