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A war to end all wars.

10/28/2008 8:41 PM

As we approach remembrance Sunday (nearest the 11th) I would propose
that we try to act upon the saying: "a war to end all wars" in reverence to
those who gave their lives so that we may live.

My proposal is radical, perhaps laughable, and only if you bear with me
may you discover that, if the proposal could, just possibly, be adopted,
the rewards are without limitation. Therefore when I submit the proposal,
PLEASE would you continue to read before making a judgement, thank you.

The proposal is in two parts. To be internationally enforced:

1) that the production sale and distribution of all explosive armaments be made illegal.

2) that all "wars" i.e. war type conflicts are only engaged in as a "paint ball" war.
Where; when a belligerent is marked with paint from the opposing side, they put
down their weapon and go home, never to fight in that particular war again.

Before you dismiss 1) as unworkable, please consider.
It is already illegal to possess firearms in some countries, e.g. the UK;
or only made available in very restricted use.
Yes, other countries are far more entrenched in gun use. e.g. the USA and others.
However, a large majority of their population already agree that this is deplored
and would like to rule against their use. That is, with a concerted international
effort, with agreement for the common good, it is conceivable, and possible item
1) could be achieved.
I concede there may be a requirement to have an armed world police to enforce
this; however, because life imprisonment would be mandatory for having a real
firearm, coupled with the obvious benefits of not having firearms universally,
I think 1) could easily prevail, in time.

2) Wars, to settle disagreements, would still be fought; on any territory, desert,
mountains, jungle, where ever they wished to settle their differences.
However, they would be fought with "paint ball" weapons. Nations would still
have conscripts, although I am sure many would willingly volunteer.
They could still "do their bit" for their country, and yet still return home unhurt.

There would still be winners; because one belligerent would run out of...
supplies; men, paint, weapons, logistics, and be forced to concede the war.
The difference would be immense.
The bullets would be paint balls; the shells would be paint shells. etc.

However; the people involved would still be highly trained, skilled, and
professional, to win. Officers, strategy, and ingenuity would still be required;
with conservation, use and direction of firepower of still of vital importance.
Only when participants suffered a splash of paint would they be legally and
morally obligated to withdraw from the field; "killed or injured" in action.
Never to be able to return to that particular war.

Men would return from the war with honour, unhurt, to lead a normal life;
their limbs and health intact. There would not be the huge waste, of resources,
chemicals, buildings, money, and human life.
The waring countries, and most of the world, would not be bankrupted by the
usual waste and devastation caused by the normal, live ammunition wars.
The wars would still be real, but un-harmful; un-wasteful; live able; perhaps
even enjoyable, wars.
Simply, the world would be a far better place; with "paint ball" wars.

No one would lose out.
The armament manufacturers and suppliers would still be required; weapons and
their development would be required; ammunition would still be required; only
this time containing paint, and not harmful lead or shrapnel.

To achieve this state lobbying would be required.
MP's and many others would need to be convinced this should work, laughable
as it reads. Consider, even if we only got half way there, the severe restrictions
in "live" armaments would make the world a far safer place.

That's the proposal; would anyone like to second it or add to the discussion?

Thanks for reading and staying with me.

jt.

Life is beautiful. Let's help everyone enjoy it.

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Re: A war to end all wars.

10/28/2008 9:04 PM

Sounds like a lot of trouble, if you are trying to make war into a game why not take it online?

The problem with your proposal is that a major shooting war with real bullets and bombs would have to be fought to get to the point where the winner would be in a position to enforce your rules...

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Re: A war to end all wars.

10/28/2008 9:44 PM

As a matter of fact most of oppressive regimes does not permit any armaments for its citizens. And what? But something says me they would keenly support your idea/ Do you guess why?

Just look at history of any war. Any party was insisting that its wage was forced by other side's unacceptable acts. So often one or both is declared their army as peace defenders and etc.

Last example is UN practice along with its peacekeeping missions.

I more like the idea (it's not mine) when instead a real war all presidents/PMs/kings/chairmans as heads of their states should be gathered on one special place (inhabitant island) for fighting (for first blood to be more merciful). Who won could get a contribution from who defeated. The fray might be broadcasted for cable TV. It's idealistic and unreal to be implemented too :(.

Life is beautiful.

Yes, and your post did help me to get some enjoy of that.[p/]

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Re: A war to end all wars.

10/29/2008 2:13 AM

While your idea has merit, unfortunately human nature will not allow this.

There are many good people on this Earth and I'm certain the paint ball wars those good people would fight could be great entertainment.

There are as many or perhaps more people that are truly bad. There are unbelievably horrible and evil persons out there in the world that are committing unspeakable atrocities every minute. Those people need killing... and not a "tag-you're out, go home" killing.

While your idea has merit and mirth, remember that the persons and organizations that daily rape, maim, and murder their neighbors would love to sell the paint balls for others to distract themselves with.

There are way too many people in this world that are naive. And even still more people that are too timid and want to look the other way when others are being hurt, waiting for someone else to protect them from violence.

I absolutely do not believe in waging war in the name of religions, ideology, or profit. I do not believe in or advocate violence, but I absolutely believe in violently kicking the crap out of those who do.

I absolutely believe that murder is a capital offense and should be swiftly and severely dealt with. Murder is murder and there is no misunderstanding when killing another human constitutes murder. It has been clearly defined over thousands of years. But make no mistake about it, if someone - male or female - were to beat my Mother to death, rape my wife or child, invade my home with intent to injure, etc., I will kill that person. It matters not to me whether it is with one of my guns or a knife, a club or my bare hands. That is not murder nor has it ever been.

No government will ever take away my ability to defend my family and home.

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Re: A war to end all wars.

10/29/2008 6:30 AM

Hello jt

You don't seem to understand that wars are made by International Bankers, Armaments and Munitions Makers, along with Politicians and others with vested interests, who finance both sides, so that they remain well behind the "Front Lines", and collexct the medal;s and profits.

There is a long litany of wars in the history of Man, and there are still two major wars yet to be fought:

1. Armageddon.

2. The final fight between Good and Evil: Good does win - hurrah.

I'm sorry to advise you that your proposed "paint ball" war-alternative system just will not be a working solution, much and all as it seems a desirable solution.

Kind Regards....

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Re: A war to end all wars.

10/30/2008 8:49 AM

You make the assumption that all wars are fought by good honorable men for just reasons. If these men have the integrity to play your paint ball game. I would think that they would long before come to peaceful solution.

I would only take one person to replace a paint ball with real lead. Then where would we be?

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Re: A war to end all wars.

11/07/2008 3:52 PM

OK folks, I admit to a naive outlook on human nature.

Far more people have agendas than is good for us;
but, that's the whole point really, we need to generate
better people, with a kinder outlook.

I have ideas for that; but it will be another thread.
(send the naive back home, let the others fight it out)

I'll say this wraps this up (for me at least) thanks all!

jt.

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Re: A war to end all wars.

11/09/2008 1:08 AM

I don't think your idea is bad at all. Simply imagine even if it would had been implemented. I am sure you along with other goodwill people will be pushed out by those bastards over the world which like and have a real skill to redirect such kind of ideas to their own gain. Sure the idea will be perverted and you first will be sored to observe how it was undermined. Just recall history of any religion move either recent 20 century's history.

What I said doesn't mean I call on you to abandon that or others ideas either. None the less cold minded judgment about how things are going for real life wouldn't be useless.

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