"Made in America" component requirements

I cannot say what is true or not true.

But i can say that if it says: "Made in America" it should be made in america. Not made in America with X% made in Taiwan, and X% made in China. I believe the same goes for any product made anywhere, The "Made in" claim better be backed with truth.

Just my two cents...

(I always try to source products that are made in America when working on a project)

Yes, I agree!

However, some (here at my company) have indicated that there is a % of compliance, but are unsure of the number.

I just need to clarify and update our policies and procedures.

Thanks!

CAM / QC MGR

Thank you - That's helpful and would more than likely meet the criteria for government jobs.

I researched a bit farther and found nothing to contradict a 100% compliance, unless specified by the customer.

In defense dept procurement this is covered by the Berry Amendment and is called DFARS 225.252-7014 for specialty metals. Heres an easy to understand summary, I have more specifics at work if you need.

http://www.smihq.org/public/publications/past_articles/apr07kaufman.pdf

If its fasteners the fastener quality act would apply

http://ts.nist.gov/WeightsAndMeasures/fqa.cfm

milo

Thank you - great references!

America start to produce such raw products in amount?

He must laugh at usa's economic running down. high tech will no exist. hehe.

even foolishman couldnt believe it.

Not sure what your point was cnpower, but it certainly merits discussion.

The US was at one time primarily a raw material based economy. Just as Canada is today, with the exception of a narrow stretch along the border that has industrialized to arbitrage the labor and currency differences with the US.

Then we industrialized. Economic development and technological maturity follows a sigmoid growth curve. After industrialization, when there is sufficent cash circulating,Then services arise to take advantage of that capital (wealth) circulating which becomes a new sigmoid growth curve... It is like ecological succession.

China has recently arrived on the scene, and due to the existence of the technologies available, grown tremendously quickly in manufacturing. With Fast growth comes different problems.

High tech will continue to exist. Economies adjust. But ill equipped, nonskilled people will always lash out and blame the powers that be rather than their own choices when they are displaced. As you pointed out in another thread "do you know ON game? Everybody win" Economics does NOT have to be a ZERO SUM GAME.

milo

USA was strong promoter of Globalization. It propagated Free Trade but unfortunately what happened most of the local industries closed down.

Earlier Japan and now China dumped consumer goods in the shopping malls.As far Japan is concerned it gave quality goods but China could not deliver quality goods and there were many occasions of withdrawals.

Now new trend of Made In USA has propped up, may be USA has realised that it has to protect its own industry and deliver quality products. God Bless USA.

Be careful what you get into as well, there is a place wither in China or Japan that is called America and a lot of products are made there specifically so they can put a "Made In America" tag on it.

Now I don't know this to be 100% true but you might want to check it out.

This may be an urban legend, but after WW2, Japan named a city Usa, so tags could say "Made in Usa". As they became recognized for producing high quality products, the practice ended.

There is also place near Mumbai, India called USA (Ulhasnagar Sindhi Association). At this place cottage industries produce very cheap consumer products and sell at low prices.Most of the people staying there are refugees who migrated from Pakistan after India was divided.

If any hardware or fastner must be 100% made in USA including raw material (steel), you should be able to find a domestic manufacturer (a small fabrication shop will work) to make them but costly. You will need to specify a 100% made in USA with American raw material, and request a material certificate on raw materials provided by American mill.

Finding suppliers is not the issue - That's covered.

The issue is the MIA requirement and percentage of compliance.

Again, MIA should be 100% and I cannot find any code or documentation that specifically details any variances.

Many of you are missing a major point- exceptions have to be made since many materials (not necessarily hi-tech) are not made in the US. In construction, some structural tubes can only be obtained from Canadian mills. This may have to do with length, tensile/yield strength or a variety of specs put in by the design engineers. Years ago the product may have been made in the US but since consolidation this is not the case. In supplying many of these projects- I have always seen that that it must be 100% till unavailable then the paperwork begins.

A few years back my shop built several burner management pipe valve skids for a boiler in Russia. In the contract it stated that all components would have to be made in America and have it stamped on the item or have a paper trail to prove it. Now I am an American and I try to use American parts but there are some items from other countries that we normally use. One is Velan s/w gate vales for steam, Hoffman electrical boxes, Jamesbury control valves and a few others. After looking at the contract more closely it clearly stated that any part proven not to be made in America would not make it past the Russian port authorities and it would be my responsibility to change before it would be accepted and I would be paid. Well to me this this meant 100% compliance and I made sure that I did the reserch on each company before I bought any materials. I would suggest that you do what ever your contract states to prevent extra expence.

While I agree that 100% ≡ 100% in theory, in reality, as has been mentioned, some things simply are no longer (and maybe never were) made in America. I suggest that it will come down to homework and documentation, possibly with advance permission since this is a customer requirement, to deviate from 100%. But what your colleagues are probably thinking of is the "recycled material" requirement, where as little as 30% or even less recycled content is often enough to get the green arrow triangle seal of approval. You want the real final answer? Ask that customer what it means. Take THAT answer to the bank. Take the rest of the answers to the dustbin of history.

I agree - it really comes down to what the customer specifies.

I am reviewing all of the contract history to determine the MIA provisions as outlined.

I will ultimately implement a contract review with contracts requiring MIA, to include a "clarification" page to confirm criteria.

THANKS TO ALL FOR THE INFO!!

Touring in China a year ago, we looked and looked, and could not find one item which said "Made in China".

Bill

hehe, you must be either a rich guy who was tucked away in noble store and 5 star hotel where there are always exotics in there. Franch perfume, Italy clothes, South africa diamond and Burma jewlers, Persia carpet and Swiss watch.

once you go to trip quickly around city street, you wil find all camera are made in Japan or korea. Once you buy computer, you hardly see one tag made in China, although they are produce in China. you can only see tage "Made in some factory" or company.

its curious, What on earth is made in China?

if you buy these commodities abroad, you will find the products produced from regualte commocial channels taged with Made in China

but if you would had visited China before 20 years, you would have found nearly all commodities taged " Made in China " even in country market.

Now do you know the reason?

Another joke,

I listed above commodities, you may be curious, what is made in USA?, ok, if you go shopping, at the counter of cigarette and wine, you can find that package delux and display in the beautiful glass cases to keep from dust are a row of cigarette, they are printed clearly "Made in USA'。

Many many years ago, I repire a machine and import a parts from Britain. when I open the package, I saw clearly, "Made in Shanghai" neatly printed on some components.

maglites. much else.

Especially medical and aircraft.

milo

Hi, Milo,

You are from Britain, why you speak for that american?

you are smart, one word like a bomb, boom.

neednt so much lighting, only small one enough. I can see where it is. I know that nor is USA without so much high tech out htere.

You are right, medical is famous in the world, I was impressive at the CT, which can be made by China now, but 10 years ago, there are few of them in China, so many businessmen import the second hand from USA to count town in China. For they have no money to buy new like city hospital.

I remmeber that days a neighboorhood of mind find me with a large package, when he opened, two or three large PCB with many small scale IC dotted on it appeared. they asked me for repair. no curcuit scheme, even no block disgram. He told me nothing. it took me a week to find problem, later I know whet it is.

But nowthe equipment produced by Chinese have been spreaded on nearly all rural idstrict and export to others.

However, in the large hospitals used still made in usa.

medicine from usa is very good. dont like some of ours that cheat and earn high profit.

of cause our chnese medcine has also many good products export to usa.

Hi again, cnpower.

I am from USA, not Britain. In Ohio. But on this forum the real smart cats are from britain. My mother was Canadian, so maybe you picked up on an odd spelling here or there...

I have visited Beijing and Shanghai. I have traveled widely and so have had my eyes opened to different ways of thinking and knowing.

Western style medicine has great power for "fixes."

Chinese style medicine has strong power to prevent sickness. I have been practicing tai chi for almost 8 years. I was at work and bloodmobile came for donations. They refused my blood -my pressure was too high.

I said I'll be back.

Went out on deck and did Yang long form and breathing excercises. came back 15 minutes later and my BP was normal. They didn't believe me how I did it.

My form was not round/smooth like folks in Shanghai parks in morning, and lacked "power' I saw in men in Beijing groups that I practiced with.

There are many ways of knowing and no reason they can't all lead to mutual success.

Here is one word - no bomb!

PEACE.

milo

? you are from usa? sorry.

National nature. everyone speak for his motherland.

As to airocraft, almost US planes flight in the sky, as well as eroup's. thats yours pride.

We cannt match that now.Have to buy from you. but ours begine to occur in the market. although smaller.

not simple, you insist on play Yang style Tai ji for 8 years. but I forget this action. there is few school teach this Gongfu in china now. but in the past, lots of such class. Now chinese young guys like to study something like judao or other foreign gonggu. I like taiji. its wondful for health.

very much this CD for you can buy.

the cat you mean maybe delthecat, he hasnt come yet.

Regards

When leaving Shanghai, flying back to the US, my wife found Winston cigarettes (my brand) in the duty free store. She bought 2 cartons for $13.00 USD each, which is about 1/3 what we pay for them in the states. When I took time to seriously look at them, I found that they were Made in Japan. They were also labled "Duty not paid for sale in the Republic of China", and in small letters "American style Cigarettes".

We arrived in San Francisco at approximately the same time that we left Shanghai.

Sincerely

Bill

haha, you are a heavy smoker, just like one of my boss, fat, smoke and drink very much, However, you are all good taxpayers for state. but we are taxevader.

But you are not welcome among us. I advice you all to cancel this favourite.

That japanese is no good to earn money. fortunately, there is no janpese out there, if they heard this words, they will fight with me. haha.

That means you take nearlly 12 hours by plane back home.

Hi C.N.Power,

I learnt from one of my Japanese friend that they have 12000 mfg plants in China who mfr many good which are branded by Japanese famous brand. I have one Sony T.V which I am sure is made in China. So far it is working o.k since 2 years but suddenly it makes "Boom" noise but it goes away soon. I had earlier Japanese make "Sanyo" T.V, it worked for 16 years except for minor repairs.I gave it to my friend and it is still working. Its tube is still in good condition. That is difference in Chinese and Japanese products. Japanese maintain high quality and follow Deming process to control quality.

mn, a follower come out.....

not only this 1200, there are lots of Japanese built up factories and companiese in China, they are mostly spread on the southeast china.

Look at map, Japan may be too samll to build up enough factories in thier country, and higher cost for their labours, so they came to china to explore our labours to get more benefilt.

I know most of japan's products is good and cheap than other like europe etc. sony is famous at their vedio, nealy all of our state TV station use their eqipments. sanyo was perchased by toshiba or panasonic, I forget.

most of their tech engineers are industrious and love study. thats why they have good tech and qualities. this spirits need our learn.

but on the net, we still like to make their joke. this is another things. haha. you will always dont understand.

Hi C.N.Power,

I think you need to learn english. Better join english classes in your city.

I wish to attend a class. but I have no money, Im out of work ! they refuse to enter.

Which sentences do you not understand. put down. I shall explain until you comprehend.

no such school in my city, btw.

a follower come out.....

not only this 1200, there are lots of factories and companies built up by Japanese in China mainland, they are mostly spread around the southeast china.

Look at map, there may be too small area for Japan to build up enough factories in their country, and higher cost had to pay for their labours, so they came to china to explore our resources to get more benefit.

I know most of japan's products are good and cheap than others like Europe 's etc. Sony is famous with their video, nearly all of our state TV station use their equipments. sanyo was purchased by toshiba or panasonic, I forget which one they are.

most of their tech engineers are industrious and love study. that's why they have good tech skill and qualities. this spirit needs our learn.

but on the net, we still like to make their joke. this is another things. ha ha. you will always don't understand.

As respect to your comment. I copy and amend some gramma and words faults.

Now I suppose any English visitor MAY understand.

From your thread I judge you havnt learned "On Information" displine. so you dont know what is redundancy, how to judge meaning from key words.

If yu are enthusiam, point out whats wrong with the thead. that is any browser's duty, who visit this cr4, rather than such words.

I prefer you list rapidly to speak.

I always think tech skill is more important than a languge skill. haha

If "tech skill is more important than a language skill." than all engineers would be rich and sales people would be poor.

The ability to convincingly communicate is what truly empowers us as humans.

It enables cooperation, sharing of information, and intergenerational memory.

Don't underestimate communications. I'd rather be first rate communicator and second rate engineer than vice versa.

milo

Very true - if you are the best engineer in the world, but only a second-rate communicator, who will ever know just how good you really are? The two keys to success are awareness and communication. Knowledge and skill are second-level requirements.

Wow, Dear Milo, I couldnt image that this words can be come out from your hand.

Thats why there are lots of cheaters in the world can drive sedan but many labours lead a suffering.

I know communication play an important role in human action, in the current there are lots of ways to communication for people work, life and study. One group may not understand others idea is very normal, Just like that Indian who may be ouit of door to electronics thats why he dont know what we said. English is not his nature language, that why he cannt understand at glance at articles. But for a nature english speaker he can guess what the opposite says, even the words is very coarse,raw or shallow, because he has enough information. just Iile Me read chinese which wrote by a foreigner.

I suuporse this theory is understood by any good educated persons.

Look at the people who come here for help, Could you say look at your skill, so lower, so coarse, and shallow neednt our answer, go back to your primary school class!

Dont think Im bothering you. just odd enough. if you would find any sentence is odd to not understand, point out, I shall explain until you hane not different meanings.

Regards.

C.N.Power,

I had just made my comment about your english language jokingly.I think you got offended for which I am sorry. Again your other comments to me and Milo seems to be hostile. Would you kindly cool down and stop such comments. We are here to help each othe and not fight. If you feel your english is o.k then you may continue with same.I have nothing against you after all we are neighbours.God bless you.

"its curious, What on earth is made in China?"

All kinds of things: ball-point pens, Happy-Meal toys, toothbrushes, drill presses. Even china.

Remarkable.

Best solution would be that customer should specify the brand names for the important components of the products, such as Motors-Crompton,Siemens,Marathon (Alsthom), Electrical Switch Gear-Siemens,Cutler Hammer, Schindler, English Elect. Gear Boxes- Feener, Allenbary etc. Let these brand names be mfd anywhere in the world but they follow quality standards. Let small hardware items such as nuts and bolts etc be made in China etc.

Normally consultants specify the makes in the tender specs. any deviations are to be pointed out by tenderer in their offer.It is now impossible to get 100% components from one country due to globalization and free trade.

hello everyone,

i would prefer to buy "american made", "100% american made". i would prefer this, even if the cost was higher. why? Because then at least some american worker somewhere, would have a job and be able to feed his kids.

there are sites that list products and companies who provide "american made" goods.

i personaly boycott as many goods as possible from offshore manufacture. i am not obsesive about this though. my Dell laptop was made in Singapore.

i would encourage american business to retrench and start manufacturing in the united states again. consider it patriotic.

joe

Better yet, consider it highly taxable if they DON'T...but then that would require gov't intervention, wouldn't it...

Excellently wonderfully respond to those " patriot" who are insisted on everything would made in usa. Humor, funny, amusing.

couldnt help a cup of beer.

hello cnpower,

"Excellently wonderfully respond to those " patriot" who are insisted on everything would made in usa. Humor, funny, amusing.

couldnt help a cup of beer."

i am glad that you are keeping yourself amused at our antics over here. one thing though, was that i think you missed the point that it wasn't meant to be amusing. so, why are you laughing?

do you see us laughing at you? i do not see it. so why do you laugh at us? we feel sad for ourselves and sad for you. yet, you see nothing but humor. very strange.

Well, Joe, it's good to see humor in everything, but cn is off the mark here. It won't be funny for the Chinese in the short term. Much of their business is gone or going away. It's predicted that it will be a lean year for holiday retailers, hence lean for Chinese manufacturers.

Eat, drink, and be merry, for tomorrow......

Bricktop,

Its more than a prediction.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/26/business/worldbusiness/26chinasteel.html?_r=1&adxnnl=1&partner=rss&emc=rss&adxnnlx=1227712515-BgqLBiV5YAU3ws30tzDQKA

I remember the first time I saw a picture of the earth from space and thinking

"Boy, we're all in this thing together."

Thats when I stopped drawing lines that divide and started to think about Working for a common good. Time for us all to start playing nice.

Now if we could only get this into the politicians' and Zealots' heads.

milo "trying hard not to be parochial"

I know some of factories in China have been closed. However, our goverment speakers emphasized in the press release that there is no such serious situations took place in China. Only a parts of workers were out of work. goverments endeavor to provide more job chances for workers by put into market more than 4 thousands billion rmb. I watch from tv screen that americans lost job, especially those who worked in Wall street.

We were told that all is due to financial crisis caused by your american and your irresponsible financial policy.

Im also in the game. due to financial crisis, chinese products have been forced to reduce export. some of facotries have been closed.

but we have to struggle against to the difficulty and overcome.

I saw some pics in newspaper showing many Chinese workers packing up their luggage from cities and heading to their native towns. Thousands have lost their jobs due to present world wide meltdown phenomena. So it is bad time for all of us. No just laughing matter.

Who said "Made in America" is best?

artbyjoe?

See post below.

I will narrate my experience of American products:-

1.In my college we had "Lebond" make lathe it worked for many years.

2.I had used "Cincinatti" milling machine during my training in factory, it gave best performance

3. In my home I am still using "Oster" Mixiee & Massager which was gifted to me by my brother in year 1970 i.e 38 years old.

So these are few examples of American products.

Typical. "Made In America" used to mean high quality and long durability. Now it means either you have an antique (almost) or you happened upon one of the few (and getting scarcer) products we don't import. I don't object so much to imports as such, but any nation that lacks self-sufficiency for materials, goods, and services, has a potential problem.

As EnviroMan said, they seem antique now. but. dont worry, as soon as they become antique, they will be very valuable. there is a hot program every weekend on out state TV station. it called " antique idenfication", you can show off out there.

Off the track. What made us shock yesterday morning was seeing on tv news the fight in Mumbai. I know that taj hotel near india door, I was told its very expensive, not ordinary people can afford its accomodation. I was very impressive about the busy of the center railway station in the city. as well as the chinese restaurant near by, Im also very impressive about Indian's industrious and hospitable.

why suddenly took place such emergency? the gunmen, seeing from pictures, are still boys.

Lets pray for peace.

Hi C.N.Power,

I am glad you remembered that I live in Mumbai,India. It was terrorist attack on us on 11/26/08. I live in south Mumbai around 3 Km from Taj and Oberio Hotels. It was like hell on that night. Bomb blasts gun fires, we could hear from our 4th floor flat.Also gunfire took place below my house while police was chasing two terrorist.

Military commandos were called and now all operations are over. Many people have lost their lives, all terrorist have been killed. They were wanting to kill mostly Americans and Britisher, but few of them have lost their live. Now everything looks normal. Very bad experience.

Glad that you were only a witness by sound and that you and family are OKAY, suresh.

milo

Milo,

Thanks for your good wishes. God is great he has saved me on many such occasions. May be Cat has seven lives I have eight.

the event has been pasted, but what made us surprise is there was no pictures shot on the site shown the world, It seems there was no cctv in such big, noble and expensive, even forbidden place. not less to say in Europe or USA, even in our china, there must be monitors on every floor in the hotel. no matter what happened, polices can know promptly and act quickly. what we could see from web is only a minute shot from a small restaurant where has a cctv. Why dont the delux hotel assemble monitors.

HI C.N.Power,

There were CC T.Vs at most of the places also news channels were broadcasting event live, may be you couldnt see it. It was shown on CNN and BBC also. You can get more details on back issues of the Indian newspaper The Times of India web site:www.timesofindia.com.

Now security has been tightened everywhere at airports,sea routes, important bldgs.,hotels etc. Unfortunately many lives are lost, my neighbour lost his daughter and son in law, one Jew Rabi couple was shot dead, their 2 years son was saved by Indian Nanny.Child was still crying for his Mom. What a sinfull attack.Now child and Nanny have left for Isreal along with his grand parents. Nanny will be given award.

You can also view pics at web site:www.boston.com.

Hi C.N.Power,

Correct address of web site is:http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2008/12/mumbai_after_the_smoke_has_cle.html.

No,

I dont want to review the scene. what I want to know is that are there enough monitors in every floor, corridors in this hotel.

forget it. all is past, lets forget it.

When I was in China, I noted that there were many web sites which I was not allowed access to including the web site of the youth symphony group I was with.

I can't imagine a less controversial group to be banned.

I suspect that the information was simply not allowed.

Bill

It would appear that any info that is not approved by the powers that be...

That may come to pass here as well...

Hi, Sciesis,

I cannt give you a exactly explain here, because Im not an administrator, What I m interpretable is there are several reasons to keep you away from these web sites, In fact, we also come to such problem.

1.flux is too huge volume to access at some time interval. especially for some music web sites. as you know there are the most chinese net people surf on the net. but the out port band wide is narrow, so you hardly go out to sruf in domastic. or you will find the speed is very slow, just like I access to this page sometimes. symphone is welocme by most chinese educated people, any goverment will not ban them.

when the 6 generation net is spread in china, this will be improved.

2. the web site you will access to is belong to some profession group they limited others access to , especially from abroad. I oftem met such things, some of them are art, film, or some electronic tech web sites.

3. they have very limited band wide, so peple cannt access to. occassionally you can. or some eterprise net. for example, in cina, some of education net, although they have very wide band, but we fcannt access to.

4. this is the last situation which will meet in every countries. neednt make fuss.

hope this will be help. so I think yours belongs to the first situation.

So a large part of the problem is simply that China does not yet have the hardware to support the level of activity on the net. I did note that things went pretty slow when I was there.

From a political point of view, I suspect that the government has to approve each site which is allowed, and with the gazillion (many) web sites out there, a Youth Symphony site from Portland Oregon is very low on the priority list.

If there is such an approval committee, I am sure that it's members have a lifetime job. The internet grows much like a flu epidemic.

At least you Cn, and our other Chinese residents, have access to CR4.

Sincerely

Bill

No, hardwares are efficient and plenty in China. Most of them are directly bought from USA, like cisc etc, famous enterprises. and have same advance as in usa. But finite output optical fibers limited its speed to abroad. last year, the fiber was broken by Taiwan strait earthquake. we even can't access to this cr4. but the situation will be changed as the new optical fiber buiding up. another reason is ISP, there are several ISP in China, they ban others resources sometime for each benefit.or conflict of interest. its very interest, I wonder if this existed in other country.

I couldn't imagine there are lots of musician surfing here. not bad, are you singer or instrument performer? or recorder, which symphony do you prefer? as well as orchestra? my group has something to do with music sometimes, too.

what is the address of the youth symphony site? show me. I try to access from my position. I don't think its a problem.

I believe every country has censorship. even in USA. so its not odd there is approval committee. of cause they are govement officers. we call them as net police. dont make a fuss on this sort of things.

Both wife and I played in High School and College... I played French horn and trumpet... she played flute. Our daughter plays violin and viola, and currently teaches these and beginning piano part time (while going to college). This is how we got involved with the youth symphony. At this time, she has graduated from the symphony and we are no longer involved with it.

The symphony is www.playmys.org . They have approximately 500 students ranging in age from 5 up through 22. The students are placed in 11 bands and orchestras according to their experience, and the top band and orchestra go on tour every three years (approximately). We went with them to Austria and Italy a few years back, and then to China two years ago.

I love your term "Net Police". Here in the US I think things are pretty free. The only "incident" I am aware of is that my brother got banned from America on Line for a year. His son (who was 18 at the time) was caught sending "adult material" (read this as porn, dirty pictures, what ever) to someone who was under 18. I can look at such things all day if I want, but they are trying to keep it away from children.

I am sure there are "terrorist" web sites out there. The government cannot keep us from visiting such web sites, but they can note who visits such web sites, and keep a close watch on them.

Gotta run for now...

Bill

Glad to know an artist's family. Im out of door to music and can play little instrument, but I m interested in it. and my work has something to do with it before. Today in the street of big city like beijing, shanghai, harbin, guangzhou, etc, I can easily find the poster of the concert. most of them are from abroad orchestra, like rassia, america and franch, britain etc. of cause art fine exhibition included. as well as dance group.

In fact the web site you metiioned is not difficult to access to. it has better speed to than access to this cr4. is this?

a lovely phenix. winter is still going, but spring has been looked forward to coming.

I like sound of spring.

your difficulty may be met by isp. Im afraid.

yesterday, when I try to access to new standard of 5.1 channel. and hard t access to.

That is the group!! I am glad it now works. Of course it was two years ago that we were in China, and it is unimportant now. We couldn't send pictures back to the "office" to put on the web site. We got around this though by sending the pictures to an individual back in the US who put them on the web site for us.

One of the most memorable events was after our concert in Shanghai when a young Chinese girl (about 5 years old) asked if she could have her picture taken with the conductor of our orchestra. He was more than willing to do this, and I believe that we also gave her some flowers from the boquet presented to him. She now has some real memories from her first concert. Who knows? She might take up music when she gets older.

Sincerely

Bill

Many chinese parents in China wish their children to learn music and other art. even during the great cultural reverlution times.

More and more chinese children study instruments and they are getting more awards in world competition. Your daughter plays piano, she might know a chinese piano player whoes name is Langlang. he often show on usa stage now. as well Li yundi, and cello player Ma youyou.

If you would visit Gulangyu island in Shamen, fujian province. you would find, nearly every family has a piano at least, every wenkend, you will hear wonderful piano sound from every lane...

its pity I cannt play any instrument.

Include me. haha, I declared above. so you delight at it.

Can anybody out there help to find me a simple job? I m learning to draw screws.

It may be Ive mistaken, just thought you were jibing at those who shouted out that everything would be made in usa. We alwasys tend to think of america is a hitech country where should produce more high technology products rather than raw material products. Those who cry out that screws matel hardwares etc such primary products should be made in usa are only jibing at american high tech going down. just have a think, matel hardwere and aeroplane, which can earn more benefit? and why more and more peasants go out of country to town for job? Have yuou ever heard someone go back in the country for job? Do peasants complain that workers pillage their bowl? To this I remember a story wrote by an american writer, if all labours worked by a small spade in hand rather than a tractor, there will be more people can find job.He was laughing at those standpatters. Have you ever read such book?

Interesting, the evolution of a thread.

To summarize the initial post, I have found through multiple government sites the provisions for "Made in America".

As a few repliers have stated, it comes down to the contract specifications. However, some contracts require "America" as country of origin.

My initial question stemmed from not having the correct documentation available, indicating the specifics of "MIA" requirements.

Whether or not a product is "better" depending on country of origin, is by trial and error. I know of several manufacturers in the US that I will not purchase from; either because of quality issues or due to specification criteria compliance.

The US government has the "MIA" provisions policy in place for several reasons, but probably the most important reason was determined as a process of war.

It's not because of a bunch of red-neck yanks think they're better than anyone else.

Again,

interesting, the evolution of a thread...