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Very cool control systems

12/01/2008 5:36 PM

Not a question, just an observation.

My 85 year old mother-in-law has recently gone into a power wheel chair controlled via joystick. Her hands shake really badly, and before she went into the power chair, I was concerned as to whether she could at all steer it.

Over Thanksgiving I watched her negotiate a narrow ramp up into a doorway. It was an older home and definitely not wheelchair friendly. She went straight up and down the ramp and moved around with ease.

Now clearly the joystick output was filtered through an RC time constant to output the near "dc" control signal that my mother-in-law was sending, but upon which was superimposed a significant time-varying "noise" signal. My wife, who has been in a power wheelchair for years, told me ahead of time that they could adjust the joystick response to accommodate the needs of different users with hand tremors.

So the averaging time constant is adjusted based on the degree and timing of shake of different users, and conceptually that seems simple enough. But watching that hand shake and the chair move straight is an amazing sight, nonetheless.

But perhaps the more amazing feedback loop is the biological one. That old lady went right up and down that ramp, straight as an arrow, sending the right signal based on watching where the chair was going and ignoring the noise perturbations her hand was adding.

It must be something similar to walking while carrying a very full glass of water. We do better if we just walk and don't watch the glass. If we watch the glass, we try to compensate and our control system isn't fast or accurate enough and the stimulus and response get out of whack and it spills.

On several levels here, the human mind is seen once again to be an amazing machine.

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Re: Very cool control systems

12/01/2008 9:17 PM

Hello emc_c

The body has many feedback loops, and some have a higher priority than others, to minimise damage and maximise longevity.

In your "glass of water" example, the feedback loops for looking where one is going + remaining erect + walking + maintaining the glass generally take place in the foregoing order, after heartbeat + breathing, as those are more important.

Because damage is likely to occur if we move into unperceived danger, resulting in bodily damage or death, that's why if we use our sight to "watch the water glass level" it does get spilt more readily.

The feedback loops are learned, and the more each one is used, the faster the reaction time for that loop.

Thus for an acrobat, able to ride a bicycle without hands on the handlebars on a tightrope, balancing a horizontal pole in his hands, carrying a person on his back, and a vase of water on his head, all at the same time = All a matter of practice.

Many skills remain for life after being successfully learned - Riding a bicycle is difficult to learn, but is never forgotten. However: Try riding a bicycle with crossed over hands, so your right hand is on the left handlebar and your left hand is on the right handlebar - That takes a new set of feedback loops to be learned.

As you note: The joystick response is adjustable - Over time as a user shortens reaction time, the feedback loop of the joystick is reduced accordingly to suit the operator's improved skills.

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12/03/2008 7:13 AM

Hello, all,

I'm sorry to learn of your family's infirmity. That must be a rough place to be, at times.

Wouldn't something like a BASIC-Stamp, used with IR, and programed to adjust for deviations is direction be more reliable than relying on a timing-loop? Or is there a "learning circuit" built into the wheelchair system?

I'm not sure I understand how the learning system here works? That is, could you 'dumb it down a bit' for me? I'm not totally familiar with RF but I do understand timing.

Thank you, and my very best wishes to you and yours,

/Ari (Orpheuse)

/Ari (Orpheuse)

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