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Pressure Safety Valves

12/18/2008 12:16 AM

In Pressure safty valve what is partial power failure sizing basis?

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Re: Pressure Safety Valves

12/19/2008 3:36 AM

All safety valves have to be sized to prevent excessive overpressure in the protected system given all conceivable fault conditions.

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12/19/2008 8:56 AM

Listen to PW and read API 520/521, they will give you the appropriate guidance for PSV sizing. I have read most of the standard and I don't remember a partial power failure sizing. Is this creating a blocked discharge, loss of condenser cooling, excessive heat to a reboiler? A lot of questions surrounding your question, we need more specifics if we are going to be of any help.

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12/19/2008 3:05 PM

what to do for solidifing material like soap. sometimes this material get solidified inside and will not operate in design setting.

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12/19/2008 7:28 PM

One plant where I did some service work over twenty years ago, had a thing they called the "snake shooter." The purpose of this system was to monitor the temperature of the plastic material in a supply line and to open a valve which vented a quantity of the material into the atmosphere before it solidified in the line. As the temperature of this line approached the critical temperature, the controller opened a valve and let a 1/2" diameter jet of the semi solid plastic shoot up through a water bath into the air where it cooled and fell into a big roll off dumpster where the material was collected for reprocessing.

I was fascinated by the three or four foot white "snakes" that shot out of the pipe attached to the dump valve. It had nothing to do with the problem I was there working on, but I was curious as a cat about it. I just had to ask to go see the thing in operation.

The temperature controller monitored the plastic supply line to the pelletizer unit and if the product in the line started to get too cold to flow, the controller opened the dump valve for a predetermined time (fraction of a second) to dump the cold plastic so that new hot material would keep comming into the line to keep the product in the line from solidifying. There was a timing program to limit the valve open time to keep the "snakes" from becoming too long to handle.

The plastic "snakes" looked like over sized spaghetti in the dumpster.

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12/20/2008 4:22 AM

i got your point. is it temperature operated valve. if you have some more material for this please let me know so that i can able to convince my management.

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12/21/2008 9:45 PM

Thanks for reply.

Now i'll go through API-520 / API-521 & then i'll discuss.

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Re: Pressure Safety Valves

12/19/2008 7:17 PM

Hi, avinash!

A pressure safety valve can be of either "too much pressure" or "too little pressure" styles. In the case of too much pressure, the valve blows, lowering the pressure. In the case of too little pressure, the valve closes, preventing a loss of pressure in the system.

In the case of a pressure safety valve designed to prevent pressure loss in the system due to a power failure, just check the minimum allowable system pressure, and purchase a valve that has that pressure in its range. In case you can't obtain a valve with the exact pressure fitting you require, you will probably have to buy one with a range of values and set it manually to the correct pressure.

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12/22/2008 1:45 PM

Pressure safety valves can also protect against excessive under-pressure or vaccuum. For example an under pressure protective valve would open a vent to prevent an internal vaccuum from collapsing a vessel.

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