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Boiler Efficiency

12/22/2008 1:21 AM

Dear all,

we have two boilers of steam capacity 5 tonne per hour, both are oil fired and use furnace oil. They produce steam at 15kg. It has a FD fan to force air.

currently the we are loosing a lot heat energy in the form of hot gases in stack. We are planning to recover energy from these loses and increase the boiler efficiency.

The steam condensate is colleced from various location of plant and used as feed water for boiler, it is available at 65-70 deg. so heating the feed water from flue gases is almost ruled out,

how feasible would it be use a economiser in the line of stack or preheating of air for this rating boilers.

are there any other steps or various by which we can recover the heat losses or increase the boiler economy.

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Madhusudhan rao

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12/22/2008 3:17 AM

Tighten the envelope, insulate, insulate, insulate.

You need maintain about 900°F flue temperature.

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12/22/2008 12:47 PM

The steam condensate is colleced from various location of plant and used as feed water for boiler, it is available at 65-70 deg. so heating the feed water from flue gases is almost ruled out, ???

Your 5 Tph is rated at 100C feed water temperature. For every drop in 6C temperature of feed water you waste 1% excess fuel at the Boiler. For every 40F/4.5C in your exhaust stack you save 1 % fuel at the Boiler.

Here, we are using 105C temperature feed water for most of our Boilers with Economizers and Feed Tank with Flash condensing deaerators.

are there any other steps or various by which we can recover the heat losses or increase the boiler economy.

1.Combustion efficiency analysis with burner adjustment will save you immediately 4-5% of fuel.

2 . Boiler Economizers - Savings 4-5%.

3 . Boiler Feed Tank with Flash condensing de-aerators - Savings 6%

(+ 60% reduction of cost of Oxygen scavenging chemicals)

4 . Automatic Boiler Blowdown Control System System - Savings 3%

5 . Modulating Level Controls requiring also smaller sizes(KW) of Feed Pumps - Savings 4%.

Additionally : Proper Insulation of Valves/Heat losing Surfaces, Insulating Furnace Oil Storage & Day Oil tanks, Steam Temperature Control of all Tanks, Steam Tracing of Furnace Oil lines to Burners, Boiler Turbulators, Modulating Boiler's Burner Controls, On-line Oxygen-trim/Control System, Steam & Fuel Flow Metering Systems.

Finally converting from Furnace Oil to Solid-fuel Briquetting System - Savings Vs Furnace Oil prices will be over 50%.

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12/22/2008 11:26 PM

you need to be concerned about corrosion due to sulphur in fuel. you should know the acid dew point. That would be the basis of knowing safe boiler exit gas temperature. Based on that you can plan for heat recovery by economizer or air heater and reduce fuel consumption.

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12/23/2008 11:27 AM

Very Good advice.

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12/23/2008 2:23 PM

good comments from the prior posts.

included is a hyperlink for some reading material also

http://www1.eere.energy.gov/industry/bestpractices/pdfs/tech_brief_true_cost.pdf

and if you need help on regeneration, just post or send me an email

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Re: Boiler Efficiency

12/24/2008 5:21 AM

Dear all,

I thankyou all for your valuable response,

if we are using a economiser in stack line and circulating the feed water through it we can gain the heat from exhaust line. The feed water is already at about 70 and under pressure, so the total feed water loop including economiser temp is above 70deg, are there still any chances for sulphur attaining it dewpoint??

What would be the cost saving in terms fuel, to raise the temp of feed water by 1 deg per lit...for 5 TPH boiler.any cost saving calculations...so that it can be proved before we can get it sanctioned to install a economiser.

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12/24/2008 5:40 AM

The sulfur dewpoint could as high as 160 to 170 °C. It will depend on Sulfur quantity in fuel.

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06/07/2009 4:52 AM

Give me fuel rate.Number of hours and Number of days boiler is running this will help in calculating payback.

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Re: Boiler Efficiency

03/13/2011 12:19 PM

Dear B Madhu S Rao,

Certainly you can use Economiser to heat the Condensate.

1. What is the Sulphur Content of the oil used, Based on that we have to calculate the partial pressure of SO2 gas formed during COMBUSTION and find the Dew Point of the Sulphur Vapour asper the DALTON's LAW OF PARTIAL PRESSURE of SO2 and keep safe margin of 50 to 60 Deg.C above the Dew Point to avoid acidic corrosion. What is the Stack Gas Temp. leaving the Chimney and What is the Excess Air % used.?

2. Why your Condensate temp. is 65 to 70 Deg.C. Is that condensate extracted under a vaccuum system, if so what is the Vac.? If the condnsate is obtained at atmospheric pressure, or more, hen the condensate Temp. should be 100 Deg.C or more.

3. Air Pre-Heater also can be installed, and recover the heat from the flue gas leaving the Boiler, subject to the Dew Point problem, as explained above.

4. You can think of recovering the Heat from the Blow-Down Water going out of the Boiler, by the condensate returning to the Boiler, by installing a Heat Exchanger.

5. You have to contain the Radiation Losses by proper Insulation, contain or control the formation of CO, i.e. CARBON MONO-OXIDE on the COMBUSTION FRONT.

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