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Preventing Electrocution Deaths in India

01/06/2009 12:38 AM

I worry and sympathise with electrocution deaths reported by most news papers and happen to witness recently in the neibourhood.Poor people die due to negligence/I would term it IGNORANCE but many educated also remain reluctant to spend for protection and take chance costing them lives of dear ones. Electricity distribution companies in India have no time to think and make mandatory Provision and ensure implementation of life saving devices RCCBs in new connections and introduce in existing house connections also.

Will any one please advise how to proceed with this task?

Surely nobody going to take trouble from Authorities and consumers for preventive actions but death threat is there in every home. We Indians are proud every time feel great spending lavishly on non essentials, if not moved now wait for next domestic gas accident because we do not bother till flames close all escape routes.

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Re: Prevention of deaths by electrocution in Indian homes

01/06/2009 8:31 AM

First get hold of all your regulations or code regarding electrical safety. If it is inadequate make written proposals of where and why it should be improved.

With regulations in place you should determine why it is not complied with or actively enforced.

What is seen in SA is that although it is not permissible the public break into transformer or distribution box enclosures and do their own connections with flex etc. No law enforcement , education or deaths could so far permanently stop this dangerous practice.

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Re: Prevention of deaths by electrocution in Indian homes

01/06/2009 8:37 AM

Dear mubarak,

I can understand and appreciate your concern for death due to electrical accident. But as you expressed, it is not that grave a situation as you think. In a large city like Pune where almost one death is reported due to road accident every day, hardly people countable in fingers die of electrocution in a year. Most of these deaths are either due to careless handling of electricity by the victims(few of them are licenced employees of electricity supply agency or contractors). Indian Electricity act provides all safety regulations for carrying out proper electrical installations and its safe handling. If electrical engineers and technicians abide by these rules there is no scope for electrical accident .Every authorised electrical connection is supposed to have complete protective gear.

Now then why accidents happen? it is because of un authorised connections and tampering with regular electrical system by unauthorised persons. The other reason is unauthorised electrical connection due to corruption by employees of electrical supply agency ,local petty political leaders and antisocial elements who are responsible for unsafe connections and theft of electricity.As my experience goes most of the electrical users in India are knowledgeable about it's danger also . So they are careful and afraid to meddle with it .

What suggestion or solutions do you expect from members of this forum( CR4) ?Engineers them self have to take care for implementation of electrical safety rules and compliance of Indian Electricity Act.

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01/06/2009 12:17 PM

All of your answer rates GA credit, but that last line is worth a GA all by itself. I wish I could be allowed to add GA for both.

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01/06/2009 11:55 PM

i agree, if the government does not enforce the safety regulations they are just words on paper

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01/07/2009 12:01 AM

Dear Abraham

I agree with you that major reason for such deaths are due to unauthorised operation or connection or tampering of the system. At some places one could even see houses constructed upto 20-30 meters from a 132 kV line. Even those houses are unauthorised.

To be straight, theft, not necessarily of electricity but also of copper, breakers, fuse bases etc., is an important reason why things go wrong. Around 10-12 years back there was a proposal, thru UN, to provide connection at 11kV to farmers at 10 kVA load ( which is generally at 415 V ). It never took off. One of the obvious reasons for shelving the project is that electricity could not be stolen if transmitted at 11 kV.

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01/09/2009 12:57 AM

Thank you for your valuble contribution to this discussion, without straying away from the basic question ... common man to protect his people from electrical hazards which are present around you have to give tips only which can be useful in solving problem at basic level for masses. you are right having assumed "Every authorised electrical connection is supposed to have complete protective gear" and "Indian Electricity act provides all safety regulations for carrying out proper electrical installations and its safe handling"but unfortunately both steps are not implemented.

I am afraid majority of untrained professionals handling electricity ever heard of rules and majority of serving professionals either forgotten or have no respect left to implement these Electricity Rules. I must record here that in a major city in Rajasthan I went asking for RCCB/ELCB and was surprised to find 95% of shop keepers and so called electrical dealers and their employees/technicians did not come back with any answer,instead some offered MCBs and fuses to show that these will do the job.I think conditions in other states may not be much different.

Hope this will explain why I requested this forum members to suggest some more effective solutions.comparing small no. of electrocution deaths with Road accident related deaths figures will not be correct and will not be a good contribution to safety topic.

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01/11/2009 9:13 AM

Dear Mubarak,

I understand your concern for the poor electrical safety norms in Rajastan. The situation may be bad there . It differs from state to state of Indian Union . It is not same standard every where as you think.

You have misunderstood my statement. what ever you stated may me correct. If correct it is a pity. The reason for such a condition is not technical but social (in action, in efficiency, lack of concern for performing their duty by the concerned staff of electricity department and prevailing corruption). This is a social problem to be discussed in local media or to be taken up by local NGO for improvement. Please take up strongly with the authority. Project in local news papers. Some NGOs must take up the issue. Some social organisation should educate people about electrical safety . There s no technical solution.

This is an international technical forum where you can get solutions for technical threads. Hope you get my point.

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10/27/2012 6:32 AM

I totally agree with your concern for lack for safety measures taken for handling electricity in India. This i am writing after many years you have posted and still the standards have not been effectively implemented.

For a common man, it is best to be equipped with basic safety measures like first aid practices, CPR and using AED. These can help a person save a life when in need rather than just waiting for medical services (which come very late in India).

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01/06/2009 8:54 AM

can you pause for a moment and check at the cause of these ?

The electricity lines everywhere you see are in haphazard manner, You have so many open boards every where. Who have opened them ? Electricity authority ?

We have an habit of blaming the government, public services etc (Sorry I am neither) but do we pause and look what we do ?

We see a board cover hanging down, do we go and fix it ? even if the screw is there ? no.

I have seen stones lying on road people avoiding it and passing through till some unfortunate person hits it falls down, then we all curse the road maintenance deptt and close the chapter. On the same note I have seen a snake crossing the road and people now had the time to stop and kill it.

Please fix the priorities. Death due to electrcution in homes you say - how many of them are due to faulty wiring and how many are due to illegally tapped lines from the nearby poles ?

Is not it the duty of the home owner to put the RCCBs ? (i have one at my home and it is put by me and not the electricity board).

Do we just wait for everything to be done by somebody other than me ? Whose protection we are talking about?

I am sorry to be harsh, but the fact is still that. The mumbai blast was gov failure, intelligence failure...

Has anybody thought that what gov can not do a chain of vigilant persons could ?

The news also covered two significant facts pl note

a) While the terrorists came down from boat, they were observed by fishermen who were even threatened by them

b) A day before the fateful day, some unknown persons had purchased grains and other foods worth , if i remember 50,000 Rs ($1000) from one of the shops near the house that was captured by them.

In case one we were not bothered, in the case 2 we were ecstatic about the wind fall.

Let us not blame the gov for every thing and do whatever possible from our side (i do remove the stones)

Why can we not educate others? You go to one of your near and dear one, see no RCCB, and ask him to put it,

Let us do it rather than make the authorities to do. Where the authorities must do we can try our bit to make them.

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Re: Preventing Electrocution Deaths in India

01/08/2009 4:41 AM

The electricity companies must be responsible for at least some of the problems as well as the consumers. As an example I have seen a large (several MVA) 11kV transformer on the pavement (sidewalk) in an Indian city, unfenced with all terminals at face level and uninsulated. This was obviously in service and not just being installed at the time. I could cite plenty of other examples.

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01/08/2009 7:08 PM

I must share that I have for some time now felt a special hopefulness in seeing the many students joining in this forum that are apparently studying in India. This illustrates why that is so encouraging.

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Re: Preventing Electrocution Deaths in India

01/09/2009 4:51 AM

Dear Chankley,

You are one hundred percent correct and I agree that accidents happen because of it. The Electricity distribution companies are mostly government controlled bodies and they are under staffed and the engineers and technicians working have many excuse for not carrying out their job properly. The fact is that lot more is to be done to improve the electrical distribution system.The higher authorities when contacted have agreed to this problem but show inability due to financial constrains and poor staff strength and they are now on their way to privatise many work and activity . Still corruption and in adequate supervision stand on the way to improvement. Situation in big cities are slowly improving but the remote villages are still in bad shape. I do not state that there is no problem, there is an important defect in system . I only said the discussion in this CR4 cannot provide any betterment or results. This subject should be properly taken up in local media. That is the right place to project this subject,then only the attention of authority concerned can be drawn for any improvement.

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