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Calculating Flange Thickness

01/30/2009 6:15 AM

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I want to calculate flange thickness for 1100 OD having operating pressure 12 kg/cm2(g) and 200 deg C operating temp respectively.please guide, how to do calculation for the same.

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Re: flange thickness

01/30/2009 6:27 AM

What's in the pipe?

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Re: flange thickness

01/30/2009 11:12 PM

i am deigning hot oil preheater having HT area -60 m2.Tube sheet thickness is worked out to be 60 mm .sheel id is 950 mm and i want to calaculate flange thickness for channel flange and operating parameter is - 12 kg/cm2(g) and 200 degC.

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Re: flange thickness

01/31/2009 12:45 AM

ANSI B 16.47 - RF Flange 34" class 150 has thickness 3.25" (minus 0.06" for RF), PCD 40.5" and 28 holes of dia 1.62"

ANSI B16.47- RF class 300. 30" flange the corresp are thk 3.62" (-0.06"), PCD 39.25", 28 holes 1.88" (these are standard flanges) and the PCD as well as the diameters may be suiting your application.

The ID may be made to your requirement.

However you can also re-design the flanges with reference to the codes, in case these flanges are not suitable.

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Re: flange thickness

01/31/2009 3:10 AM

Design of flange is differs from design of tubesheet, and design of tubesheet is differs from design of tubesheet used as a flange.

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Re: flange thickness

01/30/2009 7:27 AM

Why don't refer directly to nearest ANSi/ASME code ? as per my data,

ANSI B16.47 30" flange has the OD 43" = 1092.2mm for class 300 (at 200 deg C- upto 635PSIg or

class 150, 34" is OD 43.75" (pressure 200 PSIg)

Check the data and look whether it is suitable for you.

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Re: flange thickness

01/30/2009 2:11 PM

and if that doesn't work, please see Appendix 2 of ASME BPVC Sec VIII-1

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Re: Calculating Flange Thickness

01/31/2009 2:22 AM

The flanges can be classified into Standard Flanges and Non-Standard Flanges.

For Standard Flanges: we can define all flange dimensions including its thickness (without proceeding any design calculations) by only just knowing the flange material and design conditions (pressure & temperature), which denotes to flange rating/class. This can easily be found from ASME B16.5 (for those flanges from NPS 1/2" up to NPS 24") and ASME B16.47 (for those flanges from NPS 26" up to NPS 80").

For Non-Standard Flanges: we have to proceed a design calculations as per ASME code Section VIII, Division 1-"Mandatory Appendix 2 Rules for Bolted Flange Connections with Ring Type Gaskets" about 10 pages of detailed calculations per flange (integral, loose and optional type) and blind flange shall be carried out in accordance with ASME UG-34.6 (6 pages per blind flange).

• Please refer to the following CR4 threads for design of blind flange under internal (or external) pressure as per ASME Code, Section VIII, Division 1: can you tell me thickness calcu........ & External Pressure Blind Flange.

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01/31/2009 2:46 AM

To calculate the max. design pressure of any flange with a such rating, 1st you have to select the flange material and 2nd you have to select the design temperature.

Please refer to the following site, it is very nice : ASME B16.5 Flanges, which by knowing Design Temperature, Flange Material and Flange Rating, you can find the Max. Design pressure.

For additional information, please see the following CR4 Thread : Pound Rating.

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Upstream and downstream maintenances for flow indicator valve.

01/31/2009 3:19 AM

Dear Mr.AHG,

How much I need to maintain upstream and downstream for flow indicator valve? Is there any standard distance? Please guide me.

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Re: Calculating Flange Thickness

02/01/2009 12:28 AM

thank you very much for gudience

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Re: Calculating Flange Thickness

02/01/2009 1:14 AM

Dear Sir,

I do not have ASME std. please provide if u have in soft copy.

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Re: Calculating Flange Thickness

02/01/2009 1:35 AM

Dear r_jain31,

I can help you, please send me your e-mail.

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Re: Calculating Flange Thickness

07/22/2009 5:08 PM

• For design of Non-Standard Flanges (integral & blind), see CR4 Thread Flange Hydro Pressure Analysis and you can download the following samples of design calculations: Flange_Design_Calculations.PDF & Blind_Flange_Design_Calculations.PDF.

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Re: Calculating Flange Thickness

06/21/2019 4:44 AM

Dear Galala,

Can you send me the soft copy

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Re: Calculating Flange Thickness

12/05/2010 4:49 AM

Dear Mr. Abdel Halim Galala,

I also want a soft copy of ASME CODE. For your reference the following is the text in the thread where you have answered as "I can help you, please send me your e-mail." to Mr. rjain 31.

My mail is sdr510@rediffmail.com and blackie510@rediffmail.com

I requet you to send the same to the above mail Id.

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Re: Calculating Flange Thickness

12/05/2011 6:58 AM

Dear Brother,

Could you also send me the same spec please. My email id is abbasaliahmed@gmail.com.

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Re: Calculating Flange Thickness

03/18/2010 10:58 PM

very good!

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Re: Calculating Flange Thickness

12/15/2009 3:04 AM

I want to calculate flange thickness for 698 OD & ID 508 MM having operating pressure 2kg/cm2(g) and 220 deg C operating temp respectively.please guide, how to do calculation for the same.

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for ATHULYA BELLOWS & ENGG. PVT. LTD Alpesh Shah

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