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03/22/2009 3:02 AM

I am presently working on a wind turbine that is supposed to capture wind between multistoried buildings and generate enough electricity to work emergency lights, elevators, etc.,

Need help in design and parts procurement.

If such a product is already available, I would like to contact the manufacturer, if some can can provide with their address.

Thank you and best regards.

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03/22/2009 3:41 AM

This was on the Discovery Channel last week.

"Need help in design and parts procurement."

Do you realize what you are asking? This is a year long project!

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03/22/2009 4:20 AM

Emergency elevator etc. on wind power?

Here is a PM solution for you - place the turbine on top of the extraction fan. with the stream of air coming out of there you could power a lot of gadgets.

Rather try it at home first.

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03/22/2009 11:33 PM

If you're careful you'll can get enough to power the emergency lights.

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03/23/2009 12:04 AM

Go to the Commercial Space of CR4 and hire help at their rates.

What City are you intending to put this mechanism in?

For City environments my main suggestion to you, (for free) is that you make sure broken off turbine blades don't decapitate people walking on the sidewalks.

This sort of stuff has been discussed on CR4, and it is likely that there is a company on Global Spec that has some stuff that will do what you want with a UL rating. Of course the stuff may not most safely work in an urban setting if you are married to Wind Power.

Really to use Wind Power to do what you want you need wind turbines suspended between tall buildings on cables between the buildings where there is the tunneling of the wind as a consequence of the artificial valleys created by the buildings.

Current Commercial Wind Turbines are not Cowled.

Roof top mounting of current Windturbines in places like Manhatten, will of course work, for awhile, and do have promise, but also represent great risk when one of the blades comes loose for one reason or another.

East West winds in the Building vortex valleys for paired cable run and gimbaled turbines are recommended as long as only one of the turbines is expected to produce, while the other is inspected off the clothesline.

It may also be not recommended to string steel for carriage of sliding gimbaled cowled wind turbine generators between buildings that are not built to handle the stresses associated with any restraint on their flex.

PV Solar and batteries, are likely to better suit your requirements for minimums of power, at this time.

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03/23/2009 12:14 AM

Try this site. Good luck.

http://www.urbangreenenergy.com

p.s. Are you a secretary or something?

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03/23/2009 4:46 AM

I'm for the moment working on this test turbine ,the first result are not so badit's one desing for low wind I 'looking to find a security system for storm

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03/23/2009 9:04 AM

Wait...you want to use this to power emergency lights and elevators?

First, there are countless battery-backup emergency lights out there. I dare say you could purchase and install plenty of these for a fraction of the cost of development, build, installation and maintenance of a wind turbine system.

As for the elevators, you're not clear if you mean the turbine drives them all the time or only during emergencies. During an emergency, elevators are to be avoided at all costs! They're not intended to be an evacuation route, for many hopefully obvious reasons. This is a central reason why buildings are equipped with stairwells.

I don't want to needlessly discourage you, but I think perhaps you're working on a solution which won't be accepted, even if it does work. You may want to make some enquiries before you spend too much time on this project.

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03/23/2009 11:33 AM

You might check out helix wind. They make a vertical turbine rather than a three bladed unit.

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03/23/2009 12:55 PM

Wind is a great source of power and the idea is great. But, windspeed varies, any sort of repair would be difficult, cost based on current wind based generators from what I've seen available is about $400-$1000 for 400-600watt units, and how many companies and cities want to have large fans attached to buildings that are designed to be executive and stylish.

When I approached this same basic concept of alternate energy sources for city or building utility use or even a source to reduce electrical cost vastly I found a different "flow" if you will other than wind. Water is a much more reliable, constant, and much more ideal source to tap into.

Clean water inlet pipes have consistant flow and in small, mid, and large cities are the perfect targets to mount such devices. The water mains and electrical grids are usually laid close to streets or in easily reached locations in buildings. By replacing a section of pipe length pending on the number of generators needed to provide the required voltage ( I personally thought of a high output car alt. 240v dc / unit @ about $100-$150 each or $50-$75 for a rebuilt ). By installing a small section, maybe 3 foot for example, you could draw roughly 1000-1200 volts dc for around $300-$400 dollars. By using the same principles such as Hoover Dam or the old water mills we've seen in paintings we can achieve the kinetic force needed to rotate the alternator. Or, if serious voltage is needed! Do some research on something known as a "Peltron Belt". It works along the same lines as the static electricity type machines that most of us know from Jr. High science. The tube with a ball ontop of it that made your hair stand up when you touched the globe on top or would shock you as you went to place your hand on it. The difference is the "Peltron Belt" is much more stable (No Electrical "Shock" or Discharge) risk, output is steady even under many different environmental conditions such high humidity or extremely dry conditions, voltage outputs have been recorded from 1-10 giggawatts and it lasts about 5 years before replacement or repair. Neat Huh! Oh yeah and both these ideas if developed will be small enough to hide or just below the ground, cost effective, easily repaired, easily installed, easily replaced, safe in every aspect, and most importantly.... MY IDEAS lol!!! "Jeremy Webb Owner, Staff, & Developer of NexGen Revolution" Spell it right on any AWARDS or at least thank you cards you may or may not want to send ok. Think about it all, research if you feel the need, or just agree with it all cause I know I'm right! Take care all! And Good Luck Inventing!

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03/26/2009 5:37 AM
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06/21/2009 4:20 AM

dear mister

for the vawt test that I developpe I need a more adapted generator 600watt 80rpm .I see that your presentation picture ( AVATAR )is a generator ,you have maybe informations about the generator that I will find ,it's maybe your speciality.

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luc

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dear mister I'm looking for a low speed generator the power is 600watt and the rpm 80,for the moment I make test with a Ginlong generator 1800watt at 400 rpm I use a multiplicator with a ratio 7.8 so I thing I can not take all the energy from the wind ,I have to mutch inertia ,the test turbine is to litle and the turbine with this big alternator start only with 3.5m/sec its a model vertical with the blade who turn at 1/2 rpm that the rotor and the dimention from the test model is 180 cm large and 96 cm higth the 5 blades are now 60cm large .if sombody have one idee for me of the name where I can find this low speed generator?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-ixAoelEjM here you can see the test turbine at the ground with the 5 blade 84cm large

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