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PC Starting Problem

05/28/2009 1:33 PM

Dear Friends,

I have an unbranded computer with a Windows XP software on it. Some how it has lost a system file and it is not starting. Message is to put the system disk and hit "r" to repair which I do not have. If I press any key it restarts and give me the same message.


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05/28/2009 3:28 PM

Don't know much about your computer problem, but in general, I'd refrain from starting any thread or reply with "Dear Friends". In a world of Nigerian Scams and the like, such a phrase addressed to persons you don't know is a red flag and you likely will be ignored.

I hope your question is answered.

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05/28/2009 6:48 PM

We got scams here in the colonies too.

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05/28/2009 3:48 PM

hi awesome:

to solve this problem:

1-you can work in asafe mode then make scannow command with cd windows xp to repeat all losses file

2-you can from bios to repair asystem as aformating but to repearing

3-If all them not succeful now alast case as aformating system by windows xp cd..

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05/28/2009 6:57 PM

If you read the OP (Original Post) carefully enough, you will note the wording: " ... put the system disk ... which I do not have ... ".

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05/28/2009 3:50 PM

Be honest... Is this a "real, legitimate" copy of Windows XP? If it is, you could use the computer you're currently writing on to ask Microsoft for a copy - However, you'll need some serial numbers to get it. They're getting really hard about pirated copies of their operating systems.

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05/29/2009 2:05 PM

GA. Cuts the soup

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05/28/2009 5:39 PM

What version of XP is it? e.g. Xp pro sp3?

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05/28/2009 5:43 PM

If you can boot with safe mode, go start -> Accessories -> System tools -> System restore. Restore to an earlier time, doesn't really matter how long ago (It keeps your files) but changes the settings back, and it should sort the problem. Keep us updated!

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05/29/2009 12:24 AM

Bondy, ... I couldn't help but notice your reply to that issue. Through the years I've tried doing the Sys-Restore as you laid-out. Never works. NEVER!!! And I've set "restore points" prior to attempting a "Restore".

I'm aware that feature is there, and Microsoft didn't put it there for "looks", ...but I've never gotten that tool to work.

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05/29/2009 2:17 AM

Can't explain why it doesn't work for you. I use it about once or twice a year to get me out of bad PC behaviour - usually brought on as a result of installing a bit of software which has some unidentified conflicts with my existing set-up (usually something just stops working - the sound system, webcam or DVD burner for instance).

Works for me (touch wood).

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05/29/2009 3:48 AM

It has always worked for me, on all 7 computers in the house, just the other day it got me out a sticky spot in which by disabling an icon, killed the internet, one quick restore and I was back posting on CR4 :P

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05/29/2009 12:26 PM

System restore is a joke. It has never worked for me either. The only thing that has worked for me is troubleshooting and Google.

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06/21/2009 1:08 AM

A short while back I was trying to fix a computer running Windows ME (!). Some brands of security software can mess with system restore, and leave it unusable. Funnier still, it can set the restore date to 1899 (31st December as I recall). If you look on the web you can find this stuff. Anyways, if you can boot into dos mode, you'll find that you can access activate system restore by dos command. Unless you've tweaked such a horrible o/s otherwise, you should find the last 5 restore points (the system will have set some, even if you haven't done so directly yourself).

I've no idea if that's of any help, or if it works with other windows versions.

Just as a by-the-by, I got another system recently. I stuck XP on it (after a fair bit of hunting to find someone who'd supply me with it), because I didn't want Vista, and it's to early for 7. I'm still declining it's offers of updating to IE8 - it gives me the feeling I'd be a guinea-pig.

Does anybody know of a legit reason for turning off/removing/declining the GA tool ? With the new system I mentioned, I just let the thing go ahead and do it's stuff. I had to get the m/s updates (even on top of SP3 pack). If m/s have ceased support for XP (which I think they now have), is there any reason to leave GA active ? Is it in any way a liability or potential cause of problems ? The system is only a cheap 'runner' doing nothing more than basic m/s programs and accessing mail/internet. The system is not mine, and I don't want the hassle of running over to fix the damn thing every week ! The thing is currently just taking care of itself, with non-windows security running on auto. I've turned off file sharing, remote access stuff, and a few other tweaks. Can I look forward to a hassle free few months before I need to go see how messed up it is ?

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05/29/2009 9:45 AM

Where is the original disk? Do you have a legal copy?

If the answer is negative to either, go and buy a new system disk, ebay is cheaper usually....

Then you can run repair.

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05/29/2009 3:50 PM

What about those ultimate repair disks on ebay which are about £7

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05/29/2009 4:20 PM

When was the last time you requested an upgrade from Microsoft? Now, they won't give you a thing until you allow them to download a small program to your PC. It checks to see whether you have a legit (and registered) copy of your operating system. If the little program says, "no" you get nothing except some kind of warning.

It's a bit of a stretch, but might that little program do something more?

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05/30/2009 3:08 AM

Windows Genuine Advantage Validation Tool was introduced by Microsoft beginning from second half of 2005, where the tool will check and validate your system's Windows XP whether it is licensed, certified as authentic, and published and supported by Microsoft, before you can obtain programs from the Microsoft Download Center or receive software updates from Windows Update.

With the new WGA update, it is now impossible to bypass Windows Genuine Advantage validation check by disabling or turning off WGA Validation Tool in Manage Add-Ons in Internet Explorer. The Enable and Disable settings for WGA Validation Tool no longer selectable, with the option greyed out so that you unable to select Disable to deactivate the WGA ActiveX.

If your WGA Validation Tool ActiveX control in Internet Explorer's Add-ons is deactivated or disabled, and you can't enable the ActiveX control as the current version of WGA controls no longer allows you to change the state of enable or disable, as the radio buttons are greyed out. But if the Validation Tool stays disabled, you might have problem when using Windows Update or Microsoft Update, even after you applied other patches to bypass the validation process or using when using muBlinder. To reactivate and enable the Windows Genuine Advantage Validation Tool, launch Registry Editor and navigate to following branch:

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CurrentVersion\Policies\Ext\CLSID]

Then, change the value date of the key "{17492023-C23A-453E-A040-C7C580BBF700}" to 1 (enabled), which its initial value should be 0 (disabled).

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05/29/2009 5:58 PM

You can download your own for free too

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05/29/2009 5:52 PM

If you have saved the windows XP product key# that was installed to the computer you're okay. Just borrow a XP installation disc and use your legitimate product key # when installing

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06/16/2009 1:06 AM

hi,

insert the XP install disk and boot from it. bypass the partition deletion and format options. just re-install windows over the old installation.

All your programs & data will still be there. the missing file will be installed during the process.

there are rescue products out there, but they need to be made off a working system. something like PEbuilder. you install it on a working machine and make a boot disk. during the process you select all the windows features you would need.

next time you are in trouble you boot from this disk and then copy across (from cd to hdd) the missing files. A pebuilder windows disk only runs for a limited period on each boot, so you cannot use it to make illegal windows disks.

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06/16/2009 9:34 AM

All,

Thank you very much for providing your valueable advise on this subject. These were really helpful.

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10/28/2009 10:48 PM

Sounds like you need to reinstall the OS.

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