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DP Level Transmitter - Zero Check

05/31/2009 9:41 PM

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We have installed dp level transmitter, the impulse tubing filled with gycol. how to zero check the transmitter.

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Re: DP level Zero check

06/01/2009 1:06 AM

HI there,

You will have to supply some more information. Is the high pressure side of the DP cell connected to the top of the tank (i.e. the hp side is the wet leg)?

If so, this is known as a reverse-acting differential pressure level transmitter.

To check the zero on this type, isolate the hp leg on the top of the tank itself. Isolate the low pressure leg and then drain it. Use your multimeter to measure the current of the transmitter - you should read 20mA. This is your zero. To check the span, isolate both the hp and lp legs of the dp cell. Open the equalizing valve. You should now measure 4mA.

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Re: DP level Zero check

06/01/2009 8:37 PM

Hi there,

The dp level transmitter actually filled with glycol both impulse tubing, the low side of the transmitter connected to the top side of the tank and the high side of the transmitter connected to the bottom side of the tank, how to zero the transmitter?

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Re: DP level Zero check

09/18/2009 1:12 PM

Block in both high and low pressure connections,and vent both taps.If they are filled legs,be sure that they are both filled.Once they are confirmed filled your level should read 4 ma,witch simulates a empty drum,tower,vessel,or whatever your level transmitter is on.To verify the full scale or 100% full,hook up your pressure sourse at the bottom connection or the high side of the transmiter,pump up the high range(or URV)to whatever the range is,it should read 20ma.

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Re: DP Level Transmitter - Zero Check

06/02/2009 1:04 AM

Hi there,

In the setup where you have the LP leg connected to the top of the tank, and the HP leg connected to the bottom of the tank, isolate both the HP and LP legs at the manifold on the transmitter. Open the equalizing valve on the manifold, measure the mA of the transmitter. It should be 4mA. This is your zero reference. This is if the transmitter is calibrated for a direct action.

It is very important that you do this on the transmitter manifold so you do not drain the wet leg.

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Re: DP Level Transmitter - Zero Check

06/03/2009 2:11 AM

Hi there,

The calibration range of the dp level is LRV 1200 mmH20 to URV 390 mmH20, when the, when the hp and lp legs isolate at the manifold on the transmitter. and open the vent side, then were getting morethan 100%. output. after doing the zero check.

Please advise.

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Re: DP Level Transmitter - Zero Check

06/03/2009 2:31 AM

Hi there,

This opens up a new kettle of fish. What is the medium you are trying to measure, what is the temperature inside the tank etc etc.

It could be that the SG of the liquid in the tank is different to that of the liquid in the impulse line. This could be affected by differential temperature, presssure etc.

This would give you the effect you are experiencing.

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Re: DP Level Transmitter - Zero Check

06/03/2009 3:03 AM

Hi,

SGSL = 1.2

SGPL = 0.9

Distance between the nozzle 1 & nozzle 2 = 900mm

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Re: DP Level Transmitter - Zero Check

06/03/2009 7:39 AM

Hi there,

You need to make sure that both the LP leg and the HP leg have the same sealing fluid in, I think you are using Glycol or Glcyrin.

You need to make sure that the transmitter is calibrated for the SG of the medium being measured.

p = hρg

where:

p = pressure

h = height - 900mm

p = Rho (SG)

g = gravity = 9.8

You have the height, you need to calculate the pressure in kPA, mmH20 or whatever you want to work with. You need to make sure that Rho is the SG of the medium being measured. You must then clibrate your transmitter accordingly.

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Re: DP Level Transmitter - Zero Check

09/18/2009 1:13 PM

You shouldn't have a manifold valve on a level transmitter.

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Re: DP Level Transmitter - Zero Check

06/02/2009 10:11 AM

Normally, a fluid filled dP cell is sealed on the ends with a diaphragm and there is no manifold to equalize the two sides. If this is your case, then you will have to isolate the instrument from the process and simply loosen the flanges on each leg so that they are both drained and at atmospheric pressure. Then zero the instrument. This will insure that the hydrostatic head difference on the fluid fill is zeroed out of the instrument.

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Re: DP Level Transmitter - Zero Check

06/02/2009 3:33 PM

Hey ronron,

Here is an FYI to check, in case you are having a tank inventory problem that is compeling you to recheck your calibration. After you open the manifold bypass valve that connects low and high side lines together to check the zero, (you DO have a 5 valve manifold on the transmitter, right?!!) please be sure to compare the specific gravity of the contents of the tank (if different than glycol) with the specific gravity of your glycol and adjust your span accordingly.

We had this problem once upon a time with a liquid argon tank where the instrument folks had the DP cell calibrated to the physical elevation difference between the 2 connections. However when using the common tools for DP cell calibration (crystal pack or wally box) that can simulate: "inches of water", they neglected to multiply that distance by the specific gravity of liquid argon (1.4x heavier than water). This made the tank look like it was losing an additional 40% of its inventory on every withdrawl when it was not.

Hope you got your answers.

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Re: DP Level Transmitter - Zero Check

06/13/2009 12:32 PM

Hi Ronron,

It is quite simple to do zero check for D/P Level Transmitter that both impulse lines are filled with glycol. If both the impulse line equipped with pot, isolate from process connection. Do not open equalizer valve of manifold, vent both to atmosphere and leave glycol still inside impulse line ( add/fill glycol upto center line of both tapping point if required). Finally trim zero for the tranmitter.

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Re: DP Level Transmitter - Zero Check

01/09/2024 4:05 AM

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Re: DP Level Transmitter - Zero Check

02/10/2024 8:10 PM

You also have to take into consideration things like cleaning. If you periodically clean the tank with water and you also need to know the level during cleaning, you'll have to compensate for the difference in specific gravity between water and your product.

If your product and water have the same specific gravity or is close enough, you can do this:

Drain the tank and zero the transmitter. Then fill the tank with water until high level (you'll have to eyeball it) and then span the transmitter. That will give you 0 to 100% level without needing to do calculations. Of course, if your tank is enormous, this may be expensive or take too long to perform in which case, you'll have to perform calculations and calibrate the transmitter at the workshop or laboratory.

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