Problems with Pi

Well logically as Socrates was mostly starving, it was probably just before Plato's breakfast, lunch or dinner time.

Roger,

In general I dislike metaphysical arguments but you are wrong to say that because nobody can construct the two dimensional object of a circle in a three dimensional world that circles do not exist. The circle is a pivotal concept of geometry. Are you also claiming that concepts don't exist? That's stupid. Oh wait a minute, that's also a concept, so stupidity doesn't exist. We are all brilliant and above average. Wait a minute...

Del:

A paradigm, proving Pi are NOT square!

My gramma says 'Thank you'.

Four what? Candles?

Sure. Why not?

In my mother tongue, PI (pronunciation of PI) means legs.

So 4 can be 4 legs. Sometimes, we prove that basically we are 4 legged animal.

"In my mother tongue, PI (pronunciation of PI) means legs."

As in, "Dude! Dig that bird's Π! Have you ever seen such a perfect ratio of circumference to diameter?! Oh baaaaaby! I'd sure like to find all her decimal places!"

Something like that?

Dude - have another OT point

Well?

Well?

Well - An engineer dies and reports to the pearly gates.

Saint Peter checks his dossier and, not seeing his name there,
accidentally sends him to Hell.

It doesn't take long before the engineer becomes rather dissatisfied
with the level of comfort in Hell, and soon begins to design and build
improvements.

Shortly thereafter, Hell has air conditioning, flush toilets and
escalators. Needless to say, the engineer is a pretty popular guy.

One day, God calls Satan and says with a sneer, 'So, how are things
in Hell?'

Satan replies: 'Hey, things are going great. We've got air conditioning,
flush toilets and escalators – and there's no telling what this engineer
will come up with next.'

'What!' God exclaims. 'You've got an engineer? That's a mistake – he
should never have been sent to Hell. Send him to me.'

'Not a chance!' Satan replies. 'I like having an engineer on the staff,
and I'm keeping him!'

God insists: 'Send him back or I'll sue.'

Satan laughs uproariously and answers: 'Yeah, right. And where are you
going to get a lawyer?'

Good one. Transcendian posted that one on 08/26 in another thread. Different wording, tho.

Yep they seem to e-evolve, but it turned up in my mail loop just as you asked 'well?', which is still a mystery (about what?), so I figured the Lord our Pi moves in mysterious ways.

Well?

As in "Well? When are you gonna give me my bloody OT? It's still at 5!"

That's more like it!

Do we have an 8?

8 going once.....

Going twice.....

Going.....Pi (an irrational choice, to be sure, but I'm trying my darndest to stay on-topic.)

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^{_{(Hmm...my spider-sense tells me there's a squirrel nearby...)}}

Never seen such an earnest OT plea before. Congratulations is eight enough?

_{scurrilous suggestion.....completely scurrilous.....}

Well, hopefully you didn't sit staring up to now, but if you are as desperate as you sound, which I doubt, try hitting refresh (shortly after someone mentions those yummy points).

Great.

Europium

I'm finding it hard to believe we have "engineers" (?) who don't know the difference between an infinite number and a number with infinite digits! Glad to see you having fun with it - you made my day.

Hi RobertOz - You have had me pondering for a quite while - is that e as in Young's Modulus, if so it's indeed a ratio, and quite sexy, but limited to 'materials'.

But maybe, that e is for echidna, which equals speed of Cetacea squared.

Feel free to unconfuse me.

However the bit in brackets would be GA - except perhaps for 'perhaps'

sorry to confuse... I mean e as in Euler's number (e = 2.7182818284590.... and on and on like pi) which apart from other things has the magical property of creating the only function that is its own derivative...

i.e. if y=e^x then dy/dx = e^x

It rivals Pi for its habit of popping up everywhere, and it's the basis of natural logs (i.e. ln or log to base e).

read it all here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E_(mathematical_constant)

Ah - 'base' the illusive not made thought on my part. Yes very salubrious chap that Euler. I agree - numerically less but nearly as universally intrusive. Would you settle for "On the Right Hand of Pi"?

Done!

"I mean e as in Euler's number"

Good thing you clarified that before my attorney got hold of you.

e^®

You can tell your attorney I hold the rights to all derivatives of e^®

Good lord, I've been writing zeros as though they were free all this time. I must owe you a fortune!

nah - it works like music royalties... google simply counts up all the zeroes on the web and in print and then I get a cut of your ISP bill. It's not much per zero, but you can imagine it adds up. Whoa - got to go, one of my white rhinos is digging up the truffle beds again and the chief gamekeeper is off today (one just can't get good help)!

White Rhinos.....I appreciate your refined sense of style. May I suggest an orangutan to help you punctuate your statements with expressions of emotion? Think of the Orangutan as a real life emoticon. Really will drive you're points home.

For instance, after you told me about your White Rhino problem your orangutan could have done this:

And I would have immediately understood your distress.

Love it! A million times better than

Reminds me of http://www.bushorchimp.com/ (reading between the lines I don't think you're a rabid Bush fan so I'll post the link).

Unfortunately we don't have a lot of orangutans to photograph (the snow leopards got into their enclosure - very messy but a real hit on youtube). However I do have a whole lot of oyster photos for reasons I won't go into in this forum, which I reckon could make terrific emoticons... eg:

angry

bemused

bewildered (yet oddly jocund)

It's a surefire hit - I'll cut you in on the royalties.

Great idea. Here's some more oyster emoticons:

Happy

Introspective

World-Weary

Hungry

For some reason I'm suddenly craving oysters.

Dude, your attorney's just playin' you fo' da money. And all those plane fares to DC where his mistress (and mine) works at the USPTO. What your attorney isn't telling you is that I hold the rights to eigenfunctions (which also begins with an e^®). All of them, to perpetuity.

You owe me a lot of back royalties, pal. Shall I put them on your tab?

e^®

eigenfunctions schmeigenfunctions... I'll see you in court!

(by the way - I'm tryin to get hold of a guy called Bernie Madoff - doesn't seem to be answering his phone. Seeing as you're in the US could you ask him to gimme a call if you see him. Tell him it's rather urgent.)